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View Poll Results: Who would you vote for?
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Barack H. Obama
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28.77% |
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Rudolph W. Giuliani
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34.25% |
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John S. McCain
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9.59% |
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Hillary Rodham Clinton
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27.40% |
06-05-2007, 04:48 PM
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#101 (permalink)
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Does a 3-way tie mean the country will be split in thirds?
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06-05-2007, 05:08 PM
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#102 (permalink)
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How about some more choices - I think more are running besides these.
Where is Ronald R when you really need him ??
I don't care who or what they are so long as they have the ability to LEAD the country in these difficult times. Try adding Rice to the list, or Thompson.
Where can you find a Jefferson Democrat instead of the liberal ones ??
George Putnam (you probably don't know who he was) was a strong Jefferson Democrat (he was the originator of "talk back" often immated, never duplicated).
falcon
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06-05-2007, 07:59 PM
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Fred Thompson is in. Finally some good news in this election.
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06-06-2007, 12:43 PM
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Who do you think will be his running mate (vice Pres), how about Rice ? or ?
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06-06-2007, 12:47 PM
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Who do you think will be his running mate (vice Pres), how about Rice ? or ?
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I'm not sure. I don't think it'll be Rice or anybody from the Bush camp.
Thompson is the white knight the Republicans have been waiting for. Not a democrat running could come close to him in a general election. They need to be very careful with the VP.
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06-20-2007, 10:59 PM
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In my opinion they are all four good quality people who really care about America and think they can do great things to make America a better place for everyone.
That being said, if these four where the only canidates I would vote for Obama. Good man with good, innovative ideas.
On the other hand, if all the current canidates were considered I would support Ron Paul (R-Texas). He is a long-time Liberterian who is running as a Republican. Mr. Paul believes in limited government, low taxes, sound monetary policies and the rights of individuals. He supports the Fair Tax legislation (eliminating the current tax code and the IRS), free markets and repealing the Patriot Act ( www.ronpaul2008.com).
He is a good man with great ideas, but he will never get the support of the Republican party or the populace.
Make it a Great Day!
Kyle
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07-29-2007, 09:52 AM
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Ferre. Critical thought. Not a super credible source.
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Now it all makes sense. Giuliani has opposed securing the southern border with Mexico by building a fence, he’s been ‘rah-rah’ on the amnesty bill that for now lies dormant, and he’s all for a guest worker program. Giuliani’s pro-illegal alien track record goes all the way back to his well-documented policy while mayor of New York City of making sure the Big Apple remained a sanctuary city for illegal aliens.
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That kind of anti-immigration tough talk goes over well with stupid rednecks. Kind of surprised to see you siding with redneck bigots.
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07-29-2007, 10:04 AM
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I don't have the slightest notion about US immigration laws John, and wouldn't care less.
What caught my eye was the simple fact that the man, as a lawyer, has no scruples:
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This past May, the makers of the drug Oxycontin pleaded guilty to claiming to doctors that the drug was less addictive than other pain medications.
Rudolph Giuliani and his consulting company, Giuliani Partners, spent the last five years playing a key role negotiating with federal prosecutors on behalf of Purdue Pharma LP, the pharmaceutical company that made the drug.
The punishment for the corporate pushers who marketed this drug knowing it produced a heroin-like high and a commensurate addiction rate? On July 20, it was announced after a 4 hour hearing there would be no prison sentences; instead, a $634 million fine- chump change in big pharma world. The no-prison settlement was plotted by the man who wants to be your next president.
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I only noticed that he apparently doesn't mind to act as a damage control manager for the pharmaceutical industry when they are caught red handed lying to people about medicines they produce, something which takes a person who is able to set aside a feeling of integrity towards the general public and of which I personally don't think that's a good feature for a president.
A lawyer for big pharma wouldn't be my choice, but then again, that's just me.
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07-29-2007, 10:22 AM
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I only noticed that he apparently doesn't mind to act as a damage control manager for the pharmaceutical industry when they are caught red handed lying to people about medicines they produce
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Um, dude, Giuliani Partners is a crisis management firm. Helping companies to reduce damage is what they do. Nothing wrong with that. And for the record, Oxycontin rocks. I used to take it whenever I hurt myself in construction, and it was awesome. More power to Oxycontin. Viva le Oxycontin. Fiery death to all those ****ers who would take it off the market because of some "addictiveness". (Fix that by not giving it to pussies who cannot handle their drugs.)
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07-29-2007, 10:30 AM
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Well, we all see that America needs crisis management real bad, maybe Giuliani IS the right man for the job.

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07-29-2007, 02:04 PM
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I don't care what they say, it's what they do that counts - check their record.
Also check where they invest their money - they won't vote against their money. If they have large investments in China - beware !!
my views - falcon
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07-29-2007, 08:28 PM
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Falcon you are absolutely right about checking where they invest. In my opinion that's why oil and pharmaceutical companies have such huge profits year after year. Our elected officials are protecting their best interest (their wealth) rather than doing their job and doing whats right for the country as a whole.
In my opinion, our elected officials should not be allowed to own stock while in office or go to work for any entity (company, industry, action group, ect.) they have accepted money for 5-10 years after they are out of office. They can go back to whatever they were doing before or we could give them a stippend equal to their pay during their time in office. It would probably be cheaper in the long run because they would not be focused on
I know this this is probably impractical, and would be incredibly difficult to monitor and enforce, but something like it might keep our Senators and Congressmen focused on what is right for America and the public. I mean every time the pharmaceutical companies can get the FDA to classify something as a disease (and they are trying to get almost everything classified as a disease) makes them tons of money. They are basically overcharging the American public with Congress and the President at the time's blessing. It's a travesty that is costing Americans billions each year. Gas is the same way.
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07-29-2007, 09:37 PM
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When they run for office, don't they have to make public their investments - this should be a RED flag for some, like foreign investments and particular high profile lobbying groups. Also we can check profile (yes it is profiling) of prior voting record and investments - this may be very enlightening
falcon
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07-30-2007, 02:03 AM
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I would go for Giuliani, even if I am not american
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07-30-2007, 05:37 AM
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I would go for Giuliani, even if I am not american
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Looks like most foreigners prefer we elect the woman. Interesting.
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07-30-2007, 06:00 AM
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Looks like most foreigners prefer we elect the woman. Interesting.
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Since when Rudolph W. Giuliani is a woman ?
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07-30-2007, 06:03 AM
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Since when Rudolph W. Giuliani is a woman ?
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He isn't.
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