President of the US of A, the Poll

[John Scott]

Obama would be too weak as a president. And a bad role model. I mean, I've done some messed up things, but even I have never used cocaine, and Obama's use of seriously messed up drugs doesn't send the right message, nor does it look good that he is a smoker. That's all fine for normal folks, but I expect more from somebody who would be a president.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Mihai

I have asked you that because you quoted me and said this:



I never picked Hilary or any woman.



Anyway, not important. Case closed It was maybe a misunderstanding or something.

I wasn't referring to your vote - I was looking at the votes of other foreigners.

[Mihai]

Originally Posted by John Scott

I wasn't referring to your vote - I was looking at the votes of other foreigners.

Thank you for clearing it up for me, John.

[Ferre]

Ron Paul is very much missing from that list if you ask me.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Ron Paul is very much missing from that list if you ask me.

We'll surely do a new list once we get a bit closer to election time.

[Ferre]

From all people that run for president, Ron Paul seems to be the most down-to-earth guy and most of all, he appears to be the only one of that bunch who can spell the word integrity, at least that's what it looks like trough my foreign eyes.

As I see it;

Clinton - owned by Banks, like her hubby.
Obama - has nothing to show except for dubious credibility.
Giuliani - Owned by Big Pharma and not enough brains which he compensates with tough language. Not what the US needs right now in my opinion.
McCain - owned by the Bushies, Banks and Big Pharma, he is one of those does-what-he's-told guys, reminds me of secondhand car salesmen or TV evangelists.

Ron Paul - oldfashion conservative who at least respects the constitution.


BTW John...

Originally Posted by John Scott

nor does it look good that he is a smoker. That's all fine for normal folks, but I expect more from somebody who would be a president.

George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John F. Kennedy all used weed.

We can't have a president like that now can we, the disgrace!

[Mihai]

Originally Posted by Ferre

From all people that run for president, Ron Paul seems to be the most down-to-earth guy and most of all, he appears to be the only one of that bunch who can spell the word integrity, at least that's what it looks like trough my foreign eyes.

As I see it;

Clinton - owned by Banks, like her hubby.
Obama - has nothing to show except for dubious credibility.
Giuliani - Owned by Big Pharma and not enough brains which he compensates with tough language. Not what the US needs right now in my opinion.
McCain - owned by the Bushies, Banks and Big Pharma, he is one of those does-what-he's-told guys, reminds me of secondhand car salesmen or TV evangelists.

Ron Paul - oldfashion conservative who at least respects the constitution.


BTW John...



George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and John F. Kennedy all used weed.

We can't have a president like that now can we, the disgrace!

Looking at Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands I believe you know better

[bochgoch]

Not sure about the others, but I like Giuliani's style.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by bochgoch

Not sure about the others, but I like Giuliani's style.

From Rolling Stone Magazine;

Rudy giuliani is a true American hero, and we know this because he does all the things we expect of heroes these days -- like make $16 million a year, and lobby for Hugo Chávez and Rupert Murdoch, and promote wars without ever having served in the military, and hire a lawyer to call his second wife a "stuck pig," and organize absurd, grandstanding pogroms against minor foreign artists, and generally drift through life being a shameless opportunist with an outsize ego who doesn't even bother to conceal the fact that he's had a hard-on for the presidency since he was in diapers. In the media age, we can't have a hero humble enough to actually be one; what is needed is a tireless scoundrel, a cad willing to pose all day long for photos, who'll accept $100,000 to talk about heroism for an hour, who has the balls to take a $2.7 million advance to write a book about himself called Leadership. That's Rudy Giuliani. Our hero. And a perfect choice to uphold the legacy of George W. Bush.

In his years as mayor -- and his subsequent career as a lobbyist -- Rudy jumped into bed with anyone who could afford a rubber. Saudi Arabia, Rupert Murdoch, tobacco interests, pharmaceutical companies, private prisons, Bechtel, ChevronTexaco -- Giuliani took money from them all. You could change Rudy's mind literally in the time it took to write a check. A former prosecutor, Giuliani used to call drug dealers "murderers." But as a lobbyist he agreed to represent Seisint, a security firm run by former cocaine smuggler Hank Asher. "I have a great admiration for what he's doing," Rudy gushed after taking $2 million of Asher's money.

As mayor, Rudy had a history of asking financially interested parties to help shape important government policies. At one point, he allowed a deputy mayor who was on the payroll of Major League Baseball to work on deals for the Yankees and Mets; at another point he commissioned a $600,000 report on privatizing JFK and LaGuardia from a consultant with ties to the British Airport Authority, Rudy's handpicked choice to manage the airports.

Sounds promising, nice style.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

From Rolling Stone Magazine;
Sounds promising, nice style.

The very fact that the socialists at RollingStone don't like Rudy is enough to cement my support for him. I especially love the way RollingStone attempted to use partial truths to discredit the guy. I mean, if they cannot even come up with one valid criticism of him, the guy must be even better than I hoped.

Thanks Ferre

[The American Voters]

I personally wouldn't vote for any of the names up there and I hope someone else from each party is selected as primary but given the choices I chose McCain.

Giuliani... anyone who uses his tactics should not be allowed in the white house. He was one of the greatest mayors for NYC but that doesn't qualify him to lead the country.

Obama... if not McCain, Obama would have to be where I stand.

Clinton... well she was already president for 8 years let someone else run the country.

[micksss]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Obama would be too weak as a president. And a bad role model. I mean, I've done some messed up things, but even I have never used cocaine, and Obama's use of seriously messed up drugs doesn't send the right message, nor does it look good that he is a smoker. That's all fine for normal folks, but I expect more from somebody who would be a president.

At least he's open about his life. I also find him to be less scripted and honest in public speaking. Which I find refreshing in politics but it could be considered a flaw. The only republican I would consider voting for is Ron Paul because he reminds me of what the republican party used to stand for. It's still early and a lot will happen before NH and Iowa. God Bless America and Buck Fush!

[Renegade34]

Originally Posted by John Scott

The very fact that the socialists at RollingStone don't like Rudy is enough to cement my support for him. I especially love the way RollingStone attempted to use partial truths to discredit the guy. I mean, if they cannot even come up with one valid criticism of him, the guy must be even better than I hoped.

If even part of what Rolling Stone wrote in the article is true (whether they are "socialists" or not) I would be very concerned about Rudy running the country. Sounds to me like he is just another Bush...and my guess is most Americans don't want a repeat of that mess. At this stage I can't see Rudy winning the nomination, but there is a long way to go and a lot of special interest group's money to be had, so we'll see...

[John Scott]

he is just another Bush

In what way?

[Renegade34]

Originally Posted by John Scott

In what way?

He does what's best for Rudy (Bush). He is a pawn of big Pharma (big Oil) i.e. Special Interest Groups. Neither one is really interested in what is best for the country only what is good for them and their croonies (i.e. Bushies).

Iraq is a classic example. They know they've made mistakes but they have
too big of egos to admit it and do what is right. Now I'm not sure what that is - more troops to get the job done effectively, pull out or any number of other options - but obviously what they continue to do is not working out too well.

This war is all about oil and money, not about freeing the Iraqis or making the world safer. If that was the case we would have put all our efforts into finding Bin Laden in Afghanistan or invaded a real threat to world peace, North Korea. Bush is all about doing whatever he wants and helping his buddies rape the America (World) to get rich (i.e. Halliburton, Big Oil, Big Pharma, ect.).

Unfortunately, he can do it because there is no one who can (or will) do anything about their abuses. The Court is in his pocket. Congress has proven time and again they are inept about doing anything to this administration. I cite the Gonzales hearings. The US Attorney General can't remember any of details surrounding the firings!? Give me a break! The guy has no business being the leader of our justice system. He is just another example of how dirty and unethical this administration truly is.

Bush has the gall to repeatedly state that this is "his government" to do with as he pleases. As I recall this is actually the citizens of the United States' government and he serves all of us, not just his party or his supporters. It is his administration but not his government.

Unfortunately, I haven't got time to discuss the biggest evil of them all...Chaney! Here's a guy who thinks he is above the law and has to answer to no one. Not Congress. Not the Courts. Not the American public which he is supposed to serve. I truly believe he thinks even God is not worthy of judging him and his actions. He is one of the dirtiest, most unethical, crooked, evil individuals any where in the world today. It's scary how much power he welds.

I believe history will judge this to be one of the most ineffective and unethical administrations ever in power. And I feel Rudy has many of the same qualities. Just my opinion, but time will tell...

[John Scott]

invaded a real threat to world peace, North Korea

Not with China behind them, we wouldn't. That would be suicide.

He does what's best for Rudy (Bush)

The majority of these complaints just seem to be a character smear, no?

Bush has the gall to repeatedly state that this is "his government" to do with as he pleases. As I recall this is actually the citizens of the United States' government and he serves all of us, not just his party or his supporters. It is his administration but not his government.

Usually in a comparison it's customary to describe item "a" and then show how item "a" compares to item "b". You just described Bush, and then neglect to state any comparison to Rudy.