Should Americans be in IRAQ

[cloudtrance]

The world should be grateful that we liberate the nations that we do choose to.

Nope, the American's choice does'nt necessarily mean it is the world's choice.. The US has no right to speak for the world..

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

Nope, the American's choice does'nt necessarily mean it is the world's choice.. The US has no right to speak for the world..

..and that's where most problems start. They 'believe' they do have that right. They 'believe' that they are the 'chosen ones' to police the world. It's just one of the many examples of how delusional that society really is and how little they actually understand about other cultures.

[Ferre]

..and to top it all off, they pull this kind of crap all over the world...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.p...articleId=6223

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

Nope, the American's choice does'nt necessarily mean it is the world's choice.

We don't care about the world's choice.

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

The US has no right to speak for the world..

We don't speak for the world. Who gave you the idea that we did? We do as we please, no matter what the rest of the world thinks.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

..and that's where most problems start. They 'believe' they do have that right. They 'believe' that they are the 'chosen ones' to police the world. It's just one of the many examples of how delusional that society really is and how little they actually understand about other cultures.

We do not believe we were chosen. We believe that we have the right to liberate nations that have asked to be liberated - and many Iraqis asked.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

We don't care about the world's choice.



We don't speak for the world. Who gave you the idea that we did? We do as we please, no matter what the rest of the world thinks.

That's very obvious and for the whole world to see for the past decades.

Question is. What gives the USA that right?

[cloudtrance]

All this tamasha in the name of imposing democracy is a cruel joke played on the world by a short sighted, ADD (attention deficiency disorder) syndrome afflicted George Bush. Good thing, Bush is on the way out and his pet poodle Blair is already out. His hallucinations about God talking to him about ending terrorism and the delusional grandeur that marks him as the proverbial emperor without clothes have wreaked enough havoc far and wide.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

That's very obvious and for the whole world to see for the past decades.

Question is. What gives the USA that right?

I am American, and I never thought we spoke for anybody other than ourselves. Do you have a poll showing that over half of Americans believed that we spoke for the world and countries that think nothing like we do? Are you stupid or just blinded by your bigotry?

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

All this tamasha in the name of imposing democracy is a cruel joke played on the world by a short sighted, ADD (attention deficiency disorder) syndrome afflicted George Bush.

So you think that democracy in Iraq is wrong and not to be supported?

[Brian]

I would like to visit Iraq to see their museums. Well, at least before those museums got looted. They have such an amazing and long history.

[cloudtrance]

Originally Posted by John Scott

We do as we please, no matter what the rest of the world thinks.

Then stop whining if Iran and North Korea stockpile weapons. They can do as they please too..

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

Then stop whining if Iran and North Korea stockpile weapons. They can do as they please too..

You fail to understand the concept of America doing as it pleases. It includes protesting weapon stockpiles, and any ****ing other thing we choose to. See that? We do as we please. Can you wrap your single digit IQ around the concept or should I have my 4 year old explain it to you?

[littlebobek]

Well the thing is. I come from the Czech Republic and during the communism we had soviet army there. They also came to 'help' but everybody hated them. I think that something similar is going on in Iraq and the presence of foreign armies make things only worse.

[cloudtrance]

Originally Posted by John Scott

So you think that democracy in Iraq is wrong and not to be supported?

Democracy is a good thing and should be supported. The way it was meant to be brought about in Iraq, the cost involved in terms of no of lives lost (hundreds of thousands) does'nt really give any credit to the US nor really bring about the desired change.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by cloudtrance

Democracy is a good thing and should be supported. The way it was meant to be brought about in Iraq, the cost involved in terms of no of lives lost (hundreds of thousands) does'nt really give any credit to the US nor really bring about the desired change.

I love what is happening in Iraq. It's beautiful. The Shia and Sunni Muslims get to kill each other until they learn why the rest of the world chooses to settle their disputes in a non-violent way.

You would have preferred the Iraqis continue to be killed by Saddam?

[cloudtrance]

Originally Posted by John Scott

You fail to understand the concept of America doing as it pleases.

<sarcasm> Yeah the concept goes over my head </sarcasm>

What I do understand is that human lives are a numb statistic in Iraq, breastfeeding children lose their mothers, pregnant women lose their fetuses, mothers get killed, fathers gets drilled by bombs, there is just explosions all round, soldiers kill and get killed, human killing machines playing god on earth and a vision of hell on earth with corpses rotting and soliders gloating.....

[John Scott]