What's your definition of "God"? - Page 37

John Scott · 03-17-2008, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by PS3Fanboy

Because my "alter ego" is probably doing something else.

I don't particularly have any problems, but I am wondering why you think mudkipz is lying about the history of her own country, and that why you automatically discredit the existence of his book just because he can't find it.

When somebody has to ask an alter ego to run interference, it's a good chance they are lying. And the circumstantial evidence indicates you're lying. If this was civil court, I'd have an judgment in my favor by now.

mudkipz · 03-17-2008, 11:43 AM

^ But we're not in civil court and you refuse to face the facts that have been presented in front of you all along - branding them as lies just because you can't find them on the internet.

Oh and yes I was busy all around this forum and other forums as well.

John Scott · 03-17-2008, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by mudkipz

^ But we're not in civil court and you refuse to face the facts that have been presented in front of you all along - branding them as lies just because you can't find them on the internet.

Oh and yes I was busy all around this forum and other forums as well.

Answer the question put to you.

If you don't have access to the book, how do you know its contents?

PS3Fanboy · 03-17-2008, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

When somebody has to ask an alter ego to run interference, it's a good chance they are lying. And the circumstantial evidence indicates you're lying. If this was civil court, I'd have an judgment in my favor by now.

Post said evidence plz.

Also, still: why would anyone lie about the history of their own country.

John Scott · 03-17-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by PS3Fanboy

Post said evidence plz.

Also, still: why would anyone lie about the history of their own country.

Read the thread. It has been posted.

1. Your credibility is gone. You are a proved liar. When it was pointed out that you and your alter ego were coming from the same IP, you lied through your teeth and said "same ISP", when we both know that the IP range you are posting from belongs to a single client, and we both know the identity of that client.

2. Your book has no mentions at all on the web, no citations, nothing; which is unthinkable for a book of such historic importance.

3. Your alter ego claims to know the contents of a book so rare that it cannot even be thought to ever have existed, yet refuses to post how he/she got knowledge of the contents.

John Scott · 03-17-2008, 12:03 PM

The next spammer from that same IP range to post in this thread will get banned.

**G10** · 03-17-2008, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I don't believe G10 was saying that God was on the same level as black holes. He was simply pointing to the ability to infer attributes outside of empirical means.

Sorry, yes, thats what I meant

A black hole breaks down current physic laws as it has the power that not even time can escape the centre.. We accept this but can it be proven that time can't escapt it?

**G10** · 03-17-2008, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by PS3Fanboy

Yeah.

Anyway, I just wanted to say that if you wanted the book you'd have a better chance of finding it by contacting someone who might have it, like a library.

You think that a library may have information on a book that has zero mention on the internet?

You realise that most libraries have an online database also that can be referenced right... Even in a backwards country like us over here in the UK

detoam · 03-17-2008, 04:37 PM

An extremely lonely, sadistic, egomaniac with a nasty sexual repression. Who, of all things, gets off watching his/her children suffer. The one who would feel no shame for killing Your family just to prove to the devil that You are still dumb enough to love him.

**G10** · 03-17-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by detoam

An extremely lonely, sadistic, egomaniac with a nasty sexual repression. Who, of all things, gets off watching his/her children suffer. The one who would feel no shame for killing Your family just to prove to the devil that You are still dumb enough to love him.

Damn, I have been called some things in my time but thats a bit harsh...

I was only saying that usually, libraries also have their databases online

John Scott · 03-17-2008, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by detoam

An extremely lonely, sadistic, egomaniac with a nasty sexual repression. Who, of all things, gets off watching his/her children suffer. The one who would feel no shame for killing Your family just to prove to the devil that You are still dumb enough to love him.

LOL.

Somebody's got "issues".

detoam · 03-17-2008, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by G10

Damn, I have been called some things in my time but thats a bit harsh...

I was only saying that usually, libraries also have their databases online

I was trying to express my opinion on what or who God is.

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Originally Posted by John Scott

LOL.

Somebody's got "issues".

Not really. I am just saying what I have read in the bible. If I was like that to my children i am sure I would be either on death row or in an insane asylum.

**Cricket** · 03-17-2008, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by detoam

An extremely lonely, sadistic, egomaniac with a nasty sexual repression. Who, of all things, gets off watching his/her children suffer. The one who would feel no shame for killing Your family just to prove to the devil that You are still dumb enough to love him.

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Originally Posted by mudkipz

^ But we're not in civil court and you refuse to face the facts that have been presented in front of you all along - branding them as lies just because you can't find them on the internet.

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detoam · 03-17-2008, 07:53 PM

And. I was not complaining nor am I running away. The question was What's Your definition of God and I have stated my definition and I am very much willing to stand by it. There is no amount of ignorant blind bible thumping that is going to change my mind. I have seen a lot in my life and there is no way that anyone can prove to me that God loves anyone other then himself/herself. I said it once and I will say it again: " God must be erased from human history." Anyone that says that he loves everyone equally and then allows the slaughter of millions in his name is no better than Hitler, Stalin, The Devil or even G.W. Bush.

detoam · 03-17-2008, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by G10

Sorry, yes, thats what I meant

A black hole breaks down current physic laws as it has the power that not even time can escape the centre.. We accept this but can it be proven that time can't escapt it?

Actually it can be proven and it has been. I used to study physics and it has been proven with the current laws of physics. However it is only theoretical and it is based on what we currently know. As history of science goes the earth was not flat. Same here there are theories out there that make as much sense as the current physics we hold true. The only reason we do not use those possible laws is because we are simply unable to comprehend the possibilities that they are implying. For instance the quantum theory would make it so we do not actually have nor time nor place. The truth is: What we learn in school about physics, chemistry is the "dumbed" down version of what is real. Even Einstein, for example, believed that combining the two theories is possible and in turn that would give the answer to everything. The only thing is they aren't sure as to how the two can be one as they are so different from each other.
Have I gone too far? Sorry I do that sometimes. I used to be a big time nerd. Some of the knowledge still remains which is a mystery of it's own.

**G10** · 03-18-2008, 04:25 AM

Oooh no, you haven't gone too far at all as I too love this

So it can be proven but is only theoretical based eh.. How so as once proven it would become fact and not theory.

I understand that there is no need for the average person to understand these laws as they serve no purpose to our lives here, unless we are scientists or such.

I also understand that time is tangible which means that there could have been a pretime according to Professor Hawking and Roger Penrose as I used to enjoy studying their work.

This being the case and for the people that believe in God and ask "How could he always have existed?" It seems like science is now answering that also.

And most of the time, quantum theories are just sciences way of altering equations to try to fit the current situation and allows for the probabilities of possible outcomes of experiments.