Bush and the CIA or Al Qaeda

[John Scott]

Who do you think engineered the 9-11 attacks?

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Who do you think engineered the 9-11 attacks?

I think there are a couple of options missing, like; Certain industrialists/bankers with the help from corrupted government officials, secret services and el CIAda. That's only one of the options that's missing in your list, but there are more. Me personally I don't think I'll ever have a clue who did it without a proper investigation, all I do know is that the whole story stinks and that I have many questions that never have been answered.


The most important of all this, is that I would never had doubted the official explanation if it was not for the numerous lies that the US administration has been caught red handed with. Also, the (financial) connections which many key players the US administration has with the only ones who actually profiteer from that event are more than suspicious.

[John Scott]

I added an "Other" option for you.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

I added an "Other" option for you.

Thanks, I would have added : Other; A new investigation is needed

[thegamerslink]

Personally, and I'll try to be short here, as I have trouble keeping long thoughts these days :-(
Even in my lowered intelectual state I posses the common sense to see that at the base those that are now being called Alquaeda have for many years been trying to successfully strike a blow at the US on it's own soil. They have tried several times unsuccessfully the past few decades. The refusal of our recognition or outward returned aggression has only allowed them to take their time and try again and again untill they could get it right.
Now we sit without our trade center and all the lives that were before, not because of a government conspiracy to get us involved in a war that will get us access to oil or other things but because of a government that was to forgiving and trusting and continually allows itself to be told the same lies from governments such as Iran and Sadaam Hussein.
Once 9/11 happened and for the first time in so many years the United States stood as a UNITED Nation those that wished it harm ran in fear, those that didn't were quickly removed from play. This gave the world an "Oh Shit" pardon the french reaction. Knowing that there was no possible way whatsovever to take on a country like the United States in such a manner a slow and well planned propaganda war was started behind the scenes by the terrorists and others that were scared and threatened by such unity. Highest on the list of those that felt most threatened are inside our own country and quickly grasp at the outside propoganda to use to acieve there own goals. Some of these people hold these goals strictly for themselves while others probably honestly think they do it for the good of their cause or country. And then others simply want to protest so that they can.
As for President Bush, I am dissapointed in the fact that he has allowed others in politics to create such a turmoil that he and his administration became more mixed up in trying to make nice with the oposite party and allowed the opposite party to use treasonous statements and acts to disrupt what the country should be uniting against. The ommisions misdirects etc, well, has anyone ever heard of something called classified??? seems to me that some are so desperate to strike a personal blow at the President and anyone associated with him they have and are willing to do things that 40 years ago you would have been hung and shot for as treason. And those in congress and the senate that leak such information should have their security clearance pulled for life. These aren't the times to worry about who has power over the country, these are times we need to worry about whether our country has a safe tomorrow

[The American Voters]

We have an entire forum dedicated to theories about stuff like this on our site. I will post here what I said there:

I'm not one to believe in conspiracies but all the stuff that's out there saying it as set up/planned is really disturbing and the fact that there's more "evidence" saying it was set up and less saying it wasn't, really keeps me uneasy.

[thegamerslink]

They way I look at that....the accusation of something that is so outrageous is not even worth a response or acknowledgement of any sorts

[The American Voters]

It is outrageous but the studies and the things so many are saying can't let you sit there and just believe what everyone's said. I'm not much for conspiracies and I don't want to believe in this but what's worse, being blind about something or keeping an open mind on something like this?

[thegamerslink]

That is the attitude that the Nancy Pelosi's, John Murtha's, and Rosie O'donnel's of the world are depending on. Just like all the photos that were being released of this and that over in the middle east i.e. durring the Israel/Lebbonon war that are doctored and even released as fact by the American press. Same with Iraq, people just don't have a clue that with those that are trying to retain power there are no limitations or rules, making their ability to make a story convincing much easier than it is for one that is on the side of right to defend, just the defense alone gives them the recognition they are looking for, don't you think?

Plain and simple, you have a structure such as the trade center, it's engineered a particula way, look at the specs, the floors were basically platforms, all supported by the structual integrity of the other connected platforms, when the planes hit not only did you have the initial impact cause immence damage to the immediately surrounding structure, but you had the fire ball causing the start of surrounding fires, the structural damage caused the immediate fire suppression systems not to work, this allowed the fires to spread and burn longer and hotter than the structure was designed to with stand, the designers never intended for a strike on such a scale. You lost your primary suppression systems fail, you had noone able to use the back up systems i.e. fire hoses and extenguishers, and wouldn't have made much of a difference especially after the third hit. After the fire had burned for so long and reached such temperatures and also spread throughout other areas and floors, the metal became flexible not able to withstand the floors/platforms above it, finally one gave way, that led to a domino effect as the design was heavily dependent on the platform support. take away a few of those supports and it all goes. The floor below the top supports the top, not the top 2 or 3. so if one level collapse on top of another then you have one level having to support not just the one above it but also the one above it, and so forth,so if one fails, then it will fail down the line till you hit the ground, and will gain speed as it goes, not because explosives were set on beams but because the amount of weight and centrifical pressure from above is exponentionally increasing..........hope I'm not sounding like an idiot here.........

[The American Voters]

I'm not advocating a conspiracy. I'm stating that there's been multiple engineers stating that the towers would not have done that and all that jazz. Why have so many more engineers stated it wouldn't have done that than have stepped up and said it is possible. Do I believe in a conspiracy here? No, absolutely not. I just would like someone to step up and answer all the questions and claims that come up about it though to make me feel better.

[thegamerslink]

Not saying you are, just spoutting I guess....wonder how many of those engineers attended Berkley? :-) I'm not an engineer but I did go to a few websites I had googled that explained the architecual engineering and why it collapsed the way it did, and it did make very good sense to me is all.

[The American Voters]

Completely understand. I have some friends who are all about conspiracies and it drives me crazy.

[mauiman]

Being brainwashed is a sad sight to see. I suppose the futher we get away from any event the easier it gets to confuse reality with virtual reality. If you are not 100% sure of what happened on 9-11 and you watched the events that day then you've been digesting too much propoganda.

If you didn't watch the events as they unfolded then consider clamming up because you're basing your opinions on bogus information and aiding in spreading that propoganda further and doing damage to the U.S. AND ultimately western society as we know it.

9-11 is history. What happened is known and well documented.

Where do we go from here is what I wish people would focus on.

[The American Voters]

Great point mauiman.

[jg_v7n]

There is no "grand conspiracy" - Al Qaeda did it. They admitted it.

But things don't all add up, there have been coverups, incompetence and outright lies told about who knew what and when. Look at WTC7, there's the proof in blcak and white falling before your eyes.

Who do you think engineered the 9-11 attacks? Al Qaeda.
Who used it in order to start a war in Iraq? Bush and/or the CIA.

Which is the biggest crime?

[The American Voters]

I think those are some good points above. And a good question as well... which is the biggest crime?

[John Scott]

Which is the biggest crime?

Intentionally murdering thousands of innocent people or liberating a nation from a bloodthirsty dictator.... Hmm. Hard decision.