Bin Laden says: Convert to Islam

[Deejay Dan]

You've got a better chance of seeing Jesus Christ himself come alive off the crucifix on my chest than seeing me convert to Islam because some whack job terrorist says it will bring world peace.

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Best way to fight terrorism is with consistent law enforcement and a good economy. People tend to forget who they wanted to kill when they are paying off a nice comfy home in suburbs and a Lexus in the garage.

Well John i agree with ur statement but there few countries who think they are the God.They never respect to UN.
They brought disaster to this world with the name of bringing peace to it.Though I m not saying that Usama is right but i m saying that neither Usama and neither Us is right.
The only solution to bring peace to this world is to repsect UN orders.other wise we will get the results similar to Ist and second word war.

[shahbaz419]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Well John i agree with ur statement but there few countries who think they are the God.They never respect to UN.
They brought disaster to this world with the name of bringing peace to it.Though I m not saying that Usama is right but i m saying that neither Usama and neither Us is right.
The only solution to bring peace to this world is to repsect UN orders.other wise we will get the results similar to Ist and second word war.

I'm against osama & Bush ... Both are Terrorist !!
@ Osama: A hidden Terrorist!!
@ Bush : Terrorist in Uniform !!

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by shahbaz419

I'm against osama & Bush ... Both are Terrorist !!
@ Osama: A hidden Terrorist!!
@ Bush : Terrorist in Uniform !!

Well i think none of them is a terrorest, but both are struggling for their benefits.And every one here knows very well that what are their benefits.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Well i think none of them is a terrorest, but both are struggling for their benefits.And every one here knows very well that what are their benefits.

Using terrorist means to struggle for your benefits still makes you a terrorist.

[1more]

are you serious? osama not a terrorist? wow...

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by 1more

are you serious? osama not a terrorist? wow...

Yeah, the levels of education is Islamic countries is fairly low. It's that kind of ignorance that allows them to deny that the Holocaust ever happened.

You'll notice that conspiracies like that don't fly in nations where education is more wide-spread.

[Kareem]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Well i think none of them is a terrorest, but both are struggling for their benefits.And every one here knows very well that what are their benefits.

That has to be the dumbest thing I ever heard.

That's like saying "I'm going to blow up the building I work at, killing kids, women and men, just because I don't like my boss, see if i kill him,theywill hire a new one, and he/she would go easy on me, I would benefit from that, so it's ok"

I'm Muslim, but buddy you've been listening to the wrong tooth fairy.
I'm not ashamed to say this, but Muslims, in general these days, are not thinking straight. Nothing wrong with saying a lot of the people that follow your religion are ****ing animals, as long as you're not one. If your faith is strong enough you should be able to stand up and say, I'm Muslim, i'm a good person, but in all honesty, those bastards should burn in hell.

Muslims think killing a jewish child is ok, I'm muslim and I do not agree. God gave us brains to use, gave us the gift to tell right from wrong, he gave us the ability to question our own faiths, why do you think that is?

If it is the minority of BAD Muslims as you said before that are giving us decent ones a bad name, why the hell are we blaming America and so on? Why don't we do something about it instead of leaving other countries to come do our laundry for us, while the BAD Muslims are off killing innocent people.

I hope no one is offended by these words. My opinion.

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Using terrorist means to struggle for your benefits still makes you a terrorist.

U may say selfish can't blame him as a terrorest.

Originally Posted by 1more

are you serious? osama not a terrorist? wow...

Well i think i m not.

Originally Posted by Kareem

That has to be the dumbest thing I ever heard.

That's like saying "I'm going to blow up the building I work at, killing kids, women and men, just because I don't like my boss, see if i kill him,theywill hire a new one, and he/she would go easy on me, I would benefit from that, so it's ok"

I'm Muslim, but buddy you've been listening to the wrong tooth fairy.
I'm not ashamed to say this, but Muslims, in general these days, are not thinking straight. Nothing wrong with saying a lot of the people that follow your religion are ****ing animals, as long as you're not one. If your faith is strong enough you should be able to stand up and say, I'm Muslim, i'm a good person, but in all honesty, those bastards should burn in hell.

Muslims think killing a jewish child is ok, I'm muslim and I do not agree. God gave us brains to use, gave us the gift to tell right from wrong, he gave us the ability to question our own faiths, why do you think that is?

If it is the minority of BAD Muslims as you said before that are giving us decent ones a bad name, why the hell are we blaming America and so on? Why don't we do something about it instead of leaving other countries to come do our laundry for us, while the BAD Muslims are off killing innocent people.

I hope no one is offended by these words. My opinion.

Well Kareem i think u r not in ur own senses thats why u r mentioning this.Muslims never think of killing others.But Muslims know how to defend themselves.
Who gave Us the power to bring peace in a country.Going 180 degree phase shift to UN rules.
American attacked Afghanistan and now they are facing difficulties there and are blaming Alqaida for it.Yes Alqaida is there but is is just defending its country.
I am not a political member but just its my point of view.
I am not agianst US or any one else but i just want to say that US is not going to bring peace in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why don't u think that Alqaida was there before9/11 and US was supporting it and don't u know Alqaida is a product of America againt Russian attack on Afghanistan.
Then how Alqaida became a terrorest group after 9/11.
The support of America to Talibans against Russia shows that if Talibans are terrorest then America is producing a terrorest.
It is similar to those of underworld people.Like get a dog use t and then kill it.
And US did the same with Talibans.Produced it, used it against Russia and now killing them.

Its on the record truth.Anyone can search for them.And if some one is agianst my that statements, then he should just answer me a question.
Why US and Russia are against each other.And why Russia splitted up.How Russia lost the war against Afghanistan.?

[upsonians]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Using terrorist means to struggle for your benefits still makes you a terrorist.

U may say selfishness can't blame him as a terrorest.

Originally Posted by 1more

are you serious? osama not a terrorist? wow...

Well i think i m not.

Originally Posted by Kareem

That has to be the dumbest thing I ever heard.

That's like saying "I'm going to blow up the building I work at, killing kids, women and men, just because I don't like my boss, see if i kill him,theywill hire a new one, and he/she would go easy on me, I would benefit from that, so it's ok"

I'm Muslim, but buddy you've been listening to the wrong tooth fairy.
I'm not ashamed to say this, but Muslims, in general these days, are not thinking straight. Nothing wrong with saying a lot of the people that follow your religion are ****ing animals, as long as you're not one. If your faith is strong enough you should be able to stand up and say, I'm Muslim, i'm a good person, but in all honesty, those bastards should burn in hell.

Muslims think killing a jewish child is ok, I'm muslim and I do not agree. God gave us brains to use, gave us the gift to tell right from wrong, he gave us the ability to question our own faiths, why do you think that is?

If it is the minority of BAD Muslims as you said before that are giving us decent ones a bad name, why the hell are we blaming America and so on? Why don't we do something about it instead of leaving other countries to come do our laundry for us, while the BAD Muslims are off killing innocent people.

I hope no one is offended by these words. My opinion.

Well Kareem i think u r not in ur own senses thats why u r mentioning this.Muslims never think of killing others.But Muslims know how to defend themselves.
Who gave Us the power to bring peace in a country.Going 180 degree phase shift to UN rules.
American attacked Afghanistan and now they are facing difficulties there and are blaming Alqaida for it.Yes Alqaida is there but is is just defending its country.
I am not a political member but just its my point of view.
I am not agianst US or any one else but i just want to say that US is not going to bring peace in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why don't u think that Alqaida was there before9/11 and US was supporting it and don't u know Alqaida is a product of America againt Russian attack on Afghanistan.
Then how Alqaida became a terrorest group after 9/11.
The support of America to Talibans against Russia shows that if Talibans are terrorest then America is producing a terrorest.
It is similar to those of underworld people.Like get a dog use t and then kill it.
And US did the same with Talibans.Produced it, used it against Russia and now killing them.

Its on the record truth.Anyone can search for them.And if some one is agianst my that statements, then he should just answer me a question.
Why US and Russia are against each other.And why Russia splitted up.How Russia lost the war against Afghanistan.?
Regards:
Muhammad Arif

[John Scott]

American attacked Afghanistan and now they are facing difficulties there and are blaming Alqaida for it.

Al Qaeda isn't defending Afghanistan. They are attacking Afghani people who support democracy. They attack Afghani people more than they attack Americans.

[Kareem]

Originally Posted by upsonians

Well Kareem i think u r not in ur own senses thats why u r mentioning this.

Please, refrain yourself from making ignorant accusations. I am aware of what I am posting, although I can not truthfully say the same about you.

Originally Posted by upsonians

Muslims never think of killing others.But Muslims know how to defend themselves.

For those not of the same religion. During Friday prayers, things such as "Allah yinsif el Amrican wal yahood al mala3een, Allah yintikim men el lathy la yatako be nafs el deen" which translates to, "May Allah (God) destroy the Americans and Jewish sinners, may Allah (God) have revenge on those who do not follow our same religion"

One would think, being a Muslim, I would hide such truth, but no, you see, many Muslims today are effected by those who run the countries. It's become an internal battle between the truth, and that which the country leaders benefit from. In Lebanon, Palestine, Iraq, Egypt, Muslims pray in such a way, because they have no choice, at least Publicly. Many of us Muslims do not think this way, and that is why, we must draw a fine line, between those that follow Islam, as it really is, and those who follow people that mislead and misguide young ones today.

Originally Posted by upsonians

Who gave Us the power to bring peace in a country.Going 180 degree phase shift to UN rules.
American attacked Afghanistan and now they are facing difficulties there and are blaming Alqaida for it.Yes Alqaida is there but is is just defending its country.
I am not a political member but just its my point of view.
I am not agianst US or any one else but i just want to say that US is not going to bring peace in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Why don't u think that Alqaida was there before9/11 and US was supporting it and don't u know Alqaida is a product of America againt Russian attack on Afghanistan.
Then how Alqaida became a terrorest group after 9/11.
The support of America to Talibans against Russia shows that if Talibans are terrorest then America is producing a terrorest.
It is similar to those of underworld people.Like get a dog use t and then kill it.
And US did the same with Talibans.Produced it, used it against Russia and now killing them.

All the above is irrelevant to what you quoted me for having said. Stay on topic, and if you feel you have nothing constructive or intelligent to say then please, don't say it at all.

Originally Posted by upsonians

Its on the record truth.Anyone can search for them.And if some one is agianst my that statements, then he should just answer me a question.
Why US and Russia are against each other.And why Russia splitted up.How Russia lost the war against Afghanistan.?
Regards:
Muhammad Arif

I'm sorry, the above statement lost you all credibility as being an intelligent person. I will no longer read, nor reply to your posts. It is evident in what you have said so far, that you lack the ability to comprehend facts, and also lack the ability to present your own in defense of the crap you type.

Please, take my advice and go educate yourself further before posting in public forums.

[thegamerslink]

The answer to terrorism? Well, there is crime in every city of the world every day. People mugged, beaten, killed. Then there are the Terrorists that do it and then say they did it for a purpose, and instead of killing only 1 person they do it to 10's or 100's at a time. Be them christians, muslims, jews, men, women, or children. Doesn't matter. As long as their statement is made life has no meaning. By the way as for shutting down funding to religious organizations or whatever? Anyone remember Jim Jones from the '70's? What government was funding him? Weak minded or uneducated people are very easily controlled by those with a stronger or more logical/religious voice than their own. It works just like a business marketing by word of mouth.
The only way to stabilize things is like John said. Law, Structure, a good Economy, Education. If you make it possible for people to realize their own freedoms, you allow them the opportunities to be fruitful then you will take the need for broad terrorism away from those that are led towards it. Then all that is left is to deal with those that still exist not to mention the expansion of those the fight against it, much as the clerics and people throughout Iraq are doing now. The U.S. millitary is not there to conquer or destroy but give the opportunity to the Iraqi people to experience those freedoms and opportunities and spread just what I got through saying throughout the Middle East. That is why Al Quaida and Iran are so scared.

Our lack of action in our past is what has brought us to this point, had Jimmy Carter dealt with Iran appropriately and the Democrats of that erra not diminished our military so much then Iran would not be at this point, no need to go back 60 years. Had Clinton responded against those that were truly behind the twin tower bombings in the 90's or gone after those that bombed the USS Stark or any of the other acts that happened on his watch we would not be here now. By appeasing them you only let them know they are safe to try it again and again untill they get it right. They aren't worried about the ones that get caught or killed as long as it doesn't get close to them. That is Osama for you, He's brave with everyone elses life but disappears when his is threatened, just as Sadam was brave as long as it was from a distance and when it got to close he crawled into a hole and hid. Seems like a reoccurring habit for those that lead the radical movements

[John Scott]

I don't get this. Muslim extremists, as demonstrated in this thread, believe their terrorism is justified. So why do you deny being terrorists?

I mean, if you think it's justified, then why deny it? If you really think it's justified, then brag about it. Denying it leads me to believe that you are ashamed of it.

[Kareem]

Originally Posted by John Scott

I don't get this. Muslim extremists, as demonstrated in this thread, believe their terrorism is justified. So why do you deny being terrorists?

I mean, if you think it's justified, then why deny it? If you really think it's justified, then brag about it. Denying it leads me to believe that you are ashamed of it.

John, simple answer to this is, we Muslims, denounce these acts of terrorism, and we do not see these people as being of the same religion as us.

Say a man (of X religion, other than Islam) walks into a school and blows up people in a Muslim community, I'm sure his own kind will denounce him as having anything to do with what they believe in, like us.
However like I said before, you can not educate the ignorent that wish not to listen, and it is people like them, who give people like you, the impression that these terrorists are followers of Islam when in truth they are not, they simply hide behind it. Simple.

A human who rapes, or kills is not of any religion, don't you agree?