Finding Osama bin Laden - Page 3

shahbaz419 · 09-20-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by funbie

No wonder the CIA is less heard than some of the people here~ Great~!

BTW is he really in Pakistan?

May be OSAMA is reading this thread... so the guys talking against him could be in a great trouble & they really need police protection !!
If OSAMA is in Pakistan then how he is administrating his network in the presence of high security & operations?
He should be in place where no one just even think ..and thats the hole story why he has not been cought ..If he is alive then he must be residing somewhere in western countries !! ... Upto my thinking i believe he is no mere & his network is trying to spread terror using his NAME !!

intruth · 09-20-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Zap

A little off topic, but if I were American, I would certainly worry about the enemies being made, but I would also be worrying about China. They get to sit back and watch the US get into conflict after conflict, spending massive amounts on a military that is spread throughout the globe, all the while they buy up more and more of the US and begin to emerge as a economic force to be reckoned with. As a country, you don't exist for over 4000 years on Earth unless you're smart and strong.

Good Point.

mauiman · 09-20-2007, 11:36 PM

Oi.

John - I don't think you realize what you're up against when you debate here in your politics forum. Your frustration oozes out in most of your posts and I can't understand why you keep at it with such passion. You have a solid handle on history, world geopolitics, and current events (meaningful events). Why don't you direct your knowledge and passion towards something that may make a difference?

You may be right about 95% of the time (I'm being nice to the 'others'), but you're not going to have much success in changing their opinions as long as it's unpopular to believe what we believe.

Time WILL tell. Hopefully we'll (US) continue smothering out the violent radicals and restore enough peace to both Afghanistan and Iraq to allow those peoples a chance to control their own destinies.

Cheers

mauiman · 09-20-2007, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by shahbaz419

May be OSAMA is reading this thread... so the guys talking against him could be in a great trouble & they really need police protection !!
If OSAMA is in Pakistan then how he is administrating his network in the presence of high security & operations?
He should be in place where no one just even think ..and thats the hole story why he has not been cought ..If he is alive then he must be residing somewhere in western countries !! ... Upto my thinking i believe he is no mere & his network is trying to spread terror using his NAME !!

As for Osama...

It's no longer about Osama. I think it's time to reduce the bounty on his head to about $1 mil and forget about him. He's old and going to croak soon anyhow. If not from his kidney issue then from poisoning from the die used to color his beard.

Sooner or later the violent radicals will realize they stand a better chance at success through peaceful means then through terrorism or fighting modern civilization head on.

upsonians · 09-20-2007, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I thought he was in Pakistan?

Really jhon u u so much aware from USAMA.I live in Pakistan and i don't know where he is but u know that from JAPAN...intersting.
Jhon lets come to Pakistan i invite u and we both will search for USAMA and will get the reward from BUSH and we will get so mcuh that we will no more use to come to internet.
Secondly i will say the reward is just a statement nothing else as BUSH can't find USAMA...and i think no one can fine him...but let me tell u that he exists becoz in pakistan there are few persons who meet him before the US attack.

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Originally Posted by jwalsh

@John. You're probably correct... I stand corrected.

Interesting.

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Originally Posted by funbie

No wonder the CIA is less heard than some of the people here~ Great~!

BTW is he really in Pakistan?

I think u r from Pakistan...if u don't know where USAMA is then how JOHN SCOTT know tha..

Well guys where ever usama is i don't think American's can find him becoz Americans are still not having full control of Afghanistan even in KABUL they are not safe so how they can search for usama.
And let me tell u that Afghanistan is completly a mountaineous region..If u r interested to kow about Afghanistans locations u can watch few Hollywood films which are shooted in Afghanistan.Thx
regards:
Arif

kristeejo · 09-21-2007, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

As for Osama...

It's no longer about Osama. I think it's time to reduce the bounty on his head to about $1 mil and forget about him. He's old and going to croak soon anyhow. If not from his kidney issue then from poisoning from the die used to color his beard.

Sooner or later the violent radicals will realize they stand a better chance at success through peaceful means then through terrorism or fighting modern civilization head on.

50 is old?!

robert s. · 09-21-2007, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

As for Osama...

Sooner or later the violent radicals will realize they stand a better chance at success through peaceful means then through terrorism or fighting modern civilization head on.

lets really, really hope that you are right!!!

mauiman · 09-21-2007, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

50 is old?!

Well perhaps not in my case living in VA, but what do you think the average life expectancy is in the mountain regions of Afghanistan and Pakistan? I'm no doctor, but the Osama I see in the videos resembles an 80 year old from a civilized society.

mauiman · 09-21-2007, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by upsonians

Really John u so much aware from USAMA. I live in Pakistan and i don't know where he is...
Arif

You heard it here first:

Osama is in China.

Zap · 09-21-2007, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

Sooner or later the violent radicals will realize they stand a better chance at success through peaceful means then through terrorism or fighting modern civilization head on.

Only one problem that I can currently see with that logic.
For violent radicals, the only thing which can be called a success is the death of non-muslims.
Would you care to explain how this can be achieved through peaceful means?

mauiman · 09-21-2007, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Zap

Only one problem that I can currently see with that logic.
For violent radicals, the only thing which can be called a success is the death of non-muslims.
Would you care to explain how this can be achieved through peaceful means?

I understand it's just wishful thinking, but if enough of them are killed it's possible the "bar" may be lowered a little to include letting infidels live. Afterall, I want all of them dead as well, but I'd be content if they'd just stick to their lives and lifestyles and let others stick to theirs.

**John Scott** · 09-21-2007, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

I think next maybe we should go into North Korea and free all those poor folk from their high-heeled leader...then....maybe Iran.

John, I see why you are for all this bully-ing. You obviously think bullying gets you what you want. However, I fear America's children will soon feel the repercussions of all this bullying into "our way or the shock and awe way" attitude.

We've managed to make a few enemies in all this bullying....wouldn't you say?

Liberating = bullying? Helping indigenous forces overthrow theocratic dictarorships = bullying?

Seriously, KJ, even a knat can see through that cheap crap.

According to that logic, a cop who rescues a woman from a gang of assaulting rapists, is a bully.

shahbaz419 · 09-21-2007, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

As for Osama...

It's no longer about Osama. I think it's time to reduce the bounty on his head to about $1 mil and forget about him. He's old and going to croak soon anyhow. If not from his kidney issue then from poisoning from the die used to color his beard.

Sooner or later the violent radicals will realize they stand a better chance at success through peaceful means then through terrorism or fighting modern civilization head on.

What Bush is doing in Iraq & Afghanistan ? Is he following the path of peace ? I think no !!! Being as a Muslim and Pakistani I think that OSAMA did the wrong and he deserves punishment ,but the bush stratigy about Handling Muslim cummunity is 100% violent,Its not only the matter of the Big world trade center or London bomb blast ..its the matter of Nations and Bush is playing with Nations .....!! Just write few words about the violency of BUSH if you think,he is violent ..

upsonians · 09-21-2007, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

You heard it here first:

Osama is in China.

HAHAHHA wel i m very aware of the news of USAMA as i live very near to the location where search operation for USAMA is going on.Sorry USAMA if u were here.LOL
Well guys Pkaistani govt is taking steps to find out him...but i think he is not in Pakistan well where he is i don't know...John said he is in Pakistan and now u said he is in China ...
but i think he is in White house enjoying drink with BUSH.and releasing his fresh material videos to scare the people.
Bush advertise his videos and then he take steps for bringing peace all over the world.I don't think he is doing this for peace he is doing this for something else.Thx

mauiman · 09-21-2007, 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by shahbaz419

What Bush is doing in Iraq & Afghanistan ? Is he following the path of peace ? I think no !!! Being as a Muslim and Pakistani I think that OSAMA did the wrong and he deserves punishment ,but the bush stratigy about Handling Muslim community is 100% violent, Its not only the matter of the Big world trade center or London bomb blast ..its the matter of Nations and Bush is playing with Nations .....!! Just write few words about the violency of BUSH if you think,he is violent ..

I appreciate hearing your perspective... ESPECIALLY since you live in Pakistan where feelings run high.

Here's my perspective:

I'm very biased... so having stated that upfront I don't think Bush or the U.S. has mistreated ANY "Muslims" intentionally. Yes, there are a lot of civilians dead and yes there are a few cases where "bad" soldiers did "bad" things, but if anything we've been way too GENTLE with the "look-the-other-way" Muslim community. YOU are our best hope to talk sense to the maniacal murderers and convince them that trying to kill us is counterproductive.

Radical Muslims need to know that we Americans are not going to sit here and let them murder us (my cousin and his wife were killed on 9-11) without putting their ENTIRE communities in jeopardy of being killed as a result. I saw the millions of Muslims dancing with joy in the streets after my cousin and 3000 others were murdered for NO REASON. YOUR community has a plague within it and it's YOUR community that should solve the problem. In the meantime don't hangout with the wrong crowd.

It's obvious we can't change the maniacs point of view so we need the help of people like YOU to talk some sense into them before they and A LOT of their neighbors get blown to pieces.

Peace,

mauiman

shahbaz419 · 09-21-2007, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

I appreciate hearing your perspective... ESPECIALLY since you live in Pakistan where feelings run high.

Here's my perspective:

I'm very biased... so having stated that upfront I don't think Bush or the U.S. has mistreated ANY "Muslims" intentionally. Yes, there are a lot of civilians dead and yes there are a few cases where "bad" soldiers did "bad" things, but if anything we've been way too GENTLE with the "look-the-other-way" Muslim community. YOU are our best hope to talk sense to the maniacal murderers and convince them that trying to kill us is counterproductive.

Radical Muslims need to know that we Americans are not going to sit here and let them murder us (my cousin and his wife were killed on 9-11) without putting their ENTIRE communities in jeopardy of being killed as a result. I saw the millions of Muslims dancing with joy in the streets after my cousin and 3000 others were murdered for NO REASON. YOUR community has a plague within it and it's YOUR community that should solve the problem. In the meantime don't hangout with the wrong crowd.

It's obvious we can't change the maniacs point of view so we need the help of people like YOU to talk some sense into them before they and A LOT of their neighbors get blown to pieces.

Peace,

mauiman

You'r talking about the Muslims .. please point vividly which Muslim Tribe you are reffering ... We'r neither Afghanis Nor Iraqis ..we are pakistanis !! & we got the sence in every manner !!
We want peace in our country and we are doing our best to get this terror shit out of our country .. No Doubt there are every kind of folks in community ..some are good and some are bad .. But to Kill innoculous folks at the cost of nothing is just F****** !!
Don't you think if Bush call back their Army .. everything will get set ? Instead of this criteria of promoting peace !!

upsonians · 09-21-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by mauiman

I appreciate hearing your perspective... ESPECIALLY since you live in Pakistan where feelings run high.

Here's my perspective:

I'm very biased... so having stated that upfront I don't think Bush or the U.S. has mistreated ANY "Muslims" intentionally. Yes, there are a lot of civilians dead and yes there are a few cases where "bad" soldiers did "bad" things, but if anything we've been way too GENTLE with the "look-the-other-way" Muslim community. YOU are our best hope to talk sense to the maniacal murderers and convince them that trying to kill us is counterproductive.

Radical Muslims need to know that we Americans are not going to sit here and let them murder us (my cousin and his wife were killed on 9-11) without putting their ENTIRE communities in jeopardy of being killed as a result. I saw the millions of Muslims dancing with joy in the streets after my cousin and 3000 others were murdered for NO REASON. YOUR community has a plague within it and it's YOUR community that should solve the problem. In the meantime don't hangout with the wrong crowd.

It's obvious we can't change the maniacs point of view so we need the help of people like YOU to talk some sense into them before they and A LOT of their neighbors get blown to pieces.

Peace,

mauiman

I know that the issue of 9/11 brought some bad impression of Muslim community over the rest of people,but i think what Bush did was not the exact decision for it.As u poeple are in more trouble then 9/11.
You see u r losing more in Iraq and Afghanistan then u lost in 9/11.
SO what do u think that was it the right decision to attack on Afghanistan and Iraq.
You lost ur family members in 9/11 and u got hate in ur mind for muslims but think out for those who are losing there sons,who r in US army working in Iraq and Afghanistan now.
So what those people wil think about Bush and US community.Thx