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Old 09-26-2007, 07:31 PM   #101 (permalink)
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Wasn't making it as an issue, was just curious whether you had factual information or was conjecture or listening to propaganda. Propaganda is the number 1 weapon of Al quaeda at the moment. And I don't think there is a really for sure way to know for sure exactly what is going on as their network has in most places seemed to fracture in so many pieces as to not be attached to one another. It's also interesting that they are focusing such effort in an area that the U.S. is not allowed to enter unless I am mistaken about that.
No offense or implications were meant, apologies if that is how it came across.
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Old 09-26-2007, 07:44 PM   #102 (permalink)
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Well Usama and Talibans were having a huge network.And almost spread all over the Musli contries.And finishing such a net is impossible.I know they are not 100% correct, but still they are having power of the people.
Religious people considers American attack as an attack over Islam and thats why they are opposing American Army.And we see the killing of US army in Afghanistan and Iraq.
And you wil be surpised that even Pakistan Army lost more then 2000 soldiers in the search operation for Usama and other Alqaida leaders.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:02 PM   #103 (permalink)
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Those believing it to be an attack on Islam or those that are falling victim to the propaganda or are they themselves the radicals I would think?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:05 PM   #104 (permalink)
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Would you mind if I ask how old you are?
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:08 PM   #105 (permalink)
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Yes i agree because attack on Islam is something else.And it should not be considered as an attack on Islam.But really i condemn what Israel is doing in Palestine.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:12 PM   #106 (permalink)
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Would you mind if I ask how old you are?

i am 20.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:23 PM   #107 (permalink)
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You asking me? I'll be 40 in November. I've served in the U.S. Navy back in the 80's. I have to admit that when it comes to radicalism I am no expert and have a hard time understanding it be it Islamic radicals, christian radicals, or aethiest etc... I mean radical islamics so they are called, al quaida at the moment aren't distinguishing between muslim, christians, jews, children, women, or men. They are just killing to create the terror seemingly so they can gain the control and influence?
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Sorry thegamerslink. I was actually asking upsonians how old he is, as he keeps mentioning things from before 9/11. Since he must have been about 14 years old on 09/11/2001 then, I am curious where he has come across the majority of his information, or if it has come primarily from what he has been told by those around him.
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Old 09-26-2007, 08:39 PM   #109 (permalink)
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No problem, was just covering the bases :-)

By the way to throw a statement out for someone to see....if you have heard the theory of the rubber band effect. That is the theory that by the U.S. taking any type of action in the middle east benevolent or not that it draws fire on us, this is actually oppositely true. By our inaction against those that have done terrorist acts in the past such as the bombing of the world trade center back in the 90's and other acts that have occured both on our soil and abroad agains our interests it invites further acts and more attempts as there is little fear of retribution to be feared on their part i.e. the U.S. is a sleeping giant that is hard to impossible to awake type of attitude.
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Back then at 20 I was studying Political Science in University, and even then I never discussed politics for fear of sounding stupid, or ignorant. upsonians, I hope you understand the real message in this.
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Sorry thegamerslink. I was actually asking upsonians how old he is, as he keeps mentioning things from before 9/11. Since he must have been about 14 years old on 09/11/2001 then, I am curious where he has come across the majority of his information, or if it has come primarily from what he has been told by those around him.
Well cricket i thought u were just kidding for asking about age.I love current affair issues.And u can see that most of my posts in this forum are in the political section.
And cricket knowledge is not based on age but it in dependent on interest.If you have interest in anything you can get any knid of info about it.And let me tell you i can read newspaper so i get info from there and for US i read specially the books.
LEt me answer how you came to kow that your date of birth is XX-XX-XXXX,as you were a baby at that time,but offcourse your parents told you,the same is here with mine case.Hope you understand.

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Well kareem great Alexander said that "Thinking of a man makes his personality".Now if someone think that it will sound stupid to discuss anything then according to Alexander quote you can understand your personality.
And are you kidding by saying that you were studying political science and could not discuss politics.Amazing.
Well i am feeling stupid to share my views about any country or any one else.But i feel proud that i can handle it.
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:35 PM   #112 (permalink)
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??? Anyone seen Ben lately???

you keep bumping this thread and one day he is going to post in here...
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Old 09-27-2007, 09:38 PM   #113 (permalink)
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upsonians it is very good to hear your point of view... I will have to back track and read this thread I asked John Scott to remove the day after I posted it.... Note to self ask John Scott to do only what you don't want him to do...

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Old 09-28-2007, 03:54 AM   #118 (permalink)
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Intruth i think Usama must read this thread.What do u say.
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