Emergency Situation in Pakistan-Your Opinion?

[shahbaz419]

Musharraf has Imposed Emergency in Pakistan - on going constitution has been revoked & Provisional constitution has been issued - Now this Guy is Playing a Crap Game with us - Whats your opinion?

[Brian]

now i can't visit my favorite vacation spot.
god damnit

[shahbaz419]

Originally Posted by Brian

now i can't visit my favorite vacation spot.
god damnit

We'll make an arrangement for you ..don't disappoint !!LoL
BTW whats your favorite spot Beside NORTH Waziristan?

[John Scott]

Too bad that the Islamic extremists have succeeded in suspending democracy.

[StrongInTheArm]

He just does not want to give up power to the people of Pakistan, and the extremists have given him an excuse however tenuous to impose martial law again.

Its a 'democracy' but only if the people have no say in who the military has in control.

[shahbaz419]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Too bad that the Islamic extremists have succeeded in suspending democracy.

That was the necessary Step to bring peace to the land again!
Democracy has been dismissied however now atleast Extremist will have to face more strong Government !!

[cloudtrance]

Originally Posted by shahbaz419

That was the necessary Step to bring peace to the land again!
Democracy has been dismissied however now atleast Extremist will have to face more strong Government !!

You are sadly mistaken i would say. Its just the culmination of a general's selfish pursuit of power. Musharaff has always hunted with the hounds and run with the hares..

[D3n!ss3_gÜrL]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Too bad that the Islamic extremists have succeeded in suspending democracy.

That's their goal on the first place, suspending democracy at all cost. They never wanted people to have the power over the state. And on my thought, people doesn't even know their vested so-called power...

Originally Posted by StrongInTheArm

He just does not want to give up power to the people of Pakistan, and the extremists have given him an excuse however tenuous to impose martial law again.

Its a 'democracy' but only if the people have no say in who the military has in control.

And i think DEMOCRACY is not the right form of government for an Islamic state like Pakistan... Their leaders' thoughts have been strongly influenced by the Tyrants neighbor countries...

[oogleman]

The whole thing is highly dangerous. Could result in civil war.

[Qurratulain]

Originally Posted by shahbaz419

That was the necessary Step to bring peace to the land again!
Democracy has been dismissied however now atleast Extremist will have to face more strong Government !!

Sorry to say, but Martial Law or emergency (whatever we can name this mysterious thing) was not the need of time, instead we needed fair elections. And democracy was dismissed a long ago, in the form of 'charter democracy' (better call it a barter democracy) and recently in the form of BB-Mush deal. Was just listening to Geo today and heard BB saying that she's still hoping to have a deal with General saab.

Sorry, but we need peoples' state with right to speak, and live a life of freedom.

[adam123]

Although I Dont believe democracy is the solution for humanity, atleast not in its current shape. Those who are thinking Musharraf has done it because of waziristan or sawat situation dont know the current situation. it is actually a decision expected in a few days against his unconstitutional overtake on almost everything in the country. and ppls thinking extremist trying overtaking should try fond out about the international powers supporting them to play their role in the region. I hardly condemn this action of Musharraf

[shahbaz419]

Originally Posted by Qurratulain

Sorry to say, but Martial Law or emergency (whatever we can name this mysterious thing) was not the need of time, instead we needed fair elections. And democracy was dismissed a long ago, in the form of 'charter democracy' (better call it a barter democracy) and recently in the form of BB-Mush deal. Was just listening to Geo today and heard BB saying that she's still hoping to have a deal with General saab.

Sorry, but we need peoples' state with right to speak, and live a life of freedom.

So you want to Bring her back to pakistan ..Don't you know how corrupt she is! She had $11M corruption charges against her,which is Droped by Pakistani Govt ... I don't like the weird politics of pakistan .. all we need for the time a strong govt which can tackle the issue of Terrorism ..which BB's govt can't!

[Qurratulain]

Dear, you just leafed through what I wrote, otherwise it was not that hard English! Please read it twice more!

[spacefem]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Too bad that the Islamic extremists have succeeded in suspending democracy.

Actually, I heard that it went like this: (and I'm an American, so I might obviously be off)

1) Musharraf comes to power with the support of the United States, because he claims to be against Islamic extremists

2) US turns a blind eye to Musharraf because he's with us on the "war on terror"

3) Musharraf suspends democracy.

I think adam123 is right... well, I think democracy is always the right thing for people, but I think he's right in saying that other countries (OURS) need to look at what we've done to support this. The US has supported all sorts of leaders we would have condemned otherwise, because they're supporting our Iraq war. We ignore human rights violations in Turkey because they're an ally. We ignore environmental and human rights issues in China because they're the basis of our economy. We just love to set ourselves up to be dependent on bad people lately, it seems.

[D3n!ss3_gÜrL]

Originally Posted by spacefem

I think adam123 is right... well, I think democracy is always the right thing for people, but I think he's right in saying that other countries (OURS) need to look at what we've done to support this. The US has supported all sorts of leaders we would have condemned otherwise, because they're supporting our Iraq war. We ignore human rights violations in Turkey because they're an ally. We ignore environmental and human rights issues in China because they're the basis of our economy. We just love to set ourselves up to be dependent on bad people lately, it seems.

Nice logic and good points in there spacefem!

That's how a big player in the political economy arena manipulate it's allies and how allies work just to get the support of the big player!

[maldives]

Musharraf is responsible for all the troubles and growth in extremism in Pakistan. He is a brutal military dictator and he is just proving that.

[shahbaz419]

Originally Posted by maldives

Musharraf is responsible for all the troubles and growth in extremism in Pakistan. He is a brutal military dictator and he is just proving that.

He is a polite Gentleman!
Afghani's are Responsible for this situation in Pakistan I think!
They Penitrated in almost every part of our country and growing their network - Now they need a A strong Stick of Musharraf !!

[Rankenstein]

On the one hand we need to prop up our allies.

On the other hand, Saddam Hussein was once an ally, but funnily enough the American 'allies' usually turn out to be enemies once they've received lots of money and weapons.

Thirdly, I do agree that extremists were causing trouble but this martial law is completely over the top.

Musharaf is obviously banking on the fact that because he is an 'ally' all that will happen is that the West will go 'oooh, you are naughty!' and leave it at that.

Summary: It's the old dictator syndrome...he shouldn't be trusted. I do believe he is on 'our' side, though. He wants power and won't let it go.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Rankenstein

On the other hand, Saddam Hussein was once an ally, but funnily enough the American 'allies' usually turn out to be enemies once they've received lots of money and weapons.

England, now an enemy?

Japan, now an enemy?

"Usually" would not be correct choice of words. "Sometimes" might be better.

Originally Posted by spacefem

I think democracy is always the right thing for people

Democracy - majority rule - is in itself virtuous? So if the majority says that a minority should be gassed, that's "right"???

Democracy is often a recipe for disaster.

I prefer some dictatorships to some democracies.