9/11 what do you think!

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by cldnails

The naysayers have trouble believing the government, scientists, and investigators. I have trouble believing youtube extraordinaries trying out linkbait for the first time.

Do you have trouble believing these folks?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...e_u_s__mil.htm

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Do you have trouble believing these folks?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...e_u_s__mil.htm

The one at the top believes we should shoot down hijacked airliners. You agree?

[Rankenstein]

Originally Posted by John Scott

The one at the top believes we should shoot down hijacked airliners. You agree?

If it comes down to a choice between that, or letting them hit the WTC or the Pentagon, I think the decision becomes obvious - so it isn't that outlandish a suggestion. Evidently in some cases it become the only realistic option.

[John Scott]

Originally Posted by Rankenstein

If it comes down to a choice between that, or letting them hit the WTC or the Pentagon, I think the decision becomes obvious - so it isn't that outlandish a suggestion. Evidently in some cases it become the only realistic option.

The problem is, you don't have the right to kill the hundreds of innocent people on board. The suggestion is ludicrous. Many hijacked airplanes have been taken back from hijackers, so unless you have a time machine at your disposal and know exactly what is going to happen, killing hundreds of people still isn't an option you have the right to exercise.

[jdspc]

It would be up to the privately owned airlines to purchase and install a remote over-ride device which would then test their commitment to passenger safety.

But being regulated by government entities, should they wait until it is a requirement and then funded by an insurance policy or some other creative venture?

[cldnails]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Do you have trouble believing these folks?

http://www.opednews.com/articles/gen...e_u_s__mil.htm

Looks like a bunch of wishywashy conspiracy theory to me and I'm willing to bet these same individuals hunt for nessy and bigfoot(afterall, those individuals have phd's and pretty certificates too). I'd be able to take it(the claims) much more seriously, but the fact that they source Oliver Stone movies for wanting to do research and the fact they never give their sources just make them look crack pot to me.

[Cars-blog]

Regardless of who did it or how they did it, it was an act of terror. Therefore is was terrorists that did it IMO.

[Shido]

I voted I am not American and I believe terrorists did it.

I've seen a fair few conspiricy theories regarding 9/11 and 7/7 and I always feel the same once I've watched them, angry. Angry that there are people ranting and raving insulting the memories of the people who died in these incidents as well as profiteering off of it (releasing DVDs and so on).

[Markas]

I am not American and I believe Terrorists did bring down the twin towers

that is my personal opinion

[pss4u]

Originally Posted by zeruel

I voted for "I am not American and I believe Terrorists did bring down the twin towers."

Well, I don't think Americans would do that to their country men. If it's political intentions then that's bullsh!t... The numbers of people who died in that tragedy is not a joke. Hundreds or thousands of americans and non-americans died there...

Obviously it's a terrorist attack...

Well here is the thing about that. From my personal experience living in the U.S., unfortunately we are a very confused country. If you really do not think that we are capable of covert ops, just look at some of the mysteries in our history alone. The assassinations of former Presidents JFK & Abe Lincoln. Sure it is not on the same level of tragedy as the 9/11 incident, however the logic behind it can be linked.

Do not get me wrong. I love my country and I have served in the military for 5 years and did my time in the military. I just think with all of the technological advances that have been made over the past century alone, how can you really believe anything that is said in any portion of the media? In my opinion, for every article saying one thing, there will ALWAYS be an article which says another. There is no doubt in my mind, however that this tragedy was committed by terrorists but the question will still remain who were they?

During my stint in the military, I have seen and heard of things where the brass would make deals with others (foreign or domestic) to do things and then cover them up. Don't let this tragedy run your lives, just use it as a piece of history that will eventually come back around....

[Jaz]

I am an American and I believe Terrorists did bring down the twin towers

No question. And for the person who said that no Americans would do that to their own......I hate to bring it up but there was that tragedy in Oklahoma City that says they would. But it was a terrorist act regardless.

The pentagon was hit. Again, regardless of how, it was an act of terror. I did have one tiny question about the pentagon though. If it was a plane that hit it (and I do believe that was true) where did it go? I expected to see some parts somewhere. Just a gaping hole in the pentagon walls to show for it. (I am not trivializing this at all. Just have a question about it.)

Jaz

[ash1]

terrorists admitted they did it, ur dumb if u think islamic terrorists didnt do it

they bomb a lot of things, read the news

[pss4u]

Originally Posted by ash1

terrorists admitted they did it, ur dumb if u think islamic terrorists didnt do it

they bomb a lot of things, read the news

Ash,

No offense but this is a logical discussion. Remarks like "ur dumb" are really not all that necessary. As for read the news??? Let's see. Our media and the media around the world only publishes what they want their country to know. Think about it....this kind of media publicity is just for the governments of the various countries to get its people to stand behind the government to show the unified spirit of their fellow countrymen to support the government so that the individual will not rise up against the hole.

For every article that you show me that says "islamic terrorists" did it, I can search and show you an equally reputable article that says otherwise. Also think about this. But even cnn has been proved to providing "faulty or embelishments" of the facts on interviews that they have conducted. The media is just another form of publicity now and unless you have concrete evidence, everything that you see or read in the press can be embelishments. I am sure that the "islamic terrorists" admitted to doing it. However how many instances in history have there been a dominating government which paid, provoked, coerced, and even threatened individuals to claim admittence to cover things up? WWII for instance, half of the "unsolved mysteries" of the J.Edgar Hoover administration, Just about anything that came out of Adolf Hitler's mouth, The assisination of JFK, the assisination of Abe Lincoln.

Also please remember that these posts are opinion based and there are no "dumb" responses to someone's opinion. If they are getting to you just step back from the response. Derogratory remarks are extremely unprofessional and to call someone dumb for their beliefs or opinions is purely ignorrant.

[backgammonnn123]

Originally Posted by pss4u

Well here is the thing about that. From my personal experience living in the U.S., unfortunately we are a very confused country. If you really do not think that we are capable of covert ops, just look at some of the mysteries in our history alone. The assassinations of former Presidents JFK & Abe Lincoln. Sure it is not on the same level of tragedy as the 9/11 incident, however the logic behind it can be linked.

Do not get me wrong. I love my country and I have served in the military for 5 years and did my time in the military. I just think with all of the technological advances that have been made over the past century alone, how can you really believe anything that is said in any portion of the media? In my opinion, for every article saying one thing, there will ALWAYS be an article which says another. There is no doubt in my mind, however that this tragedy was committed by terrorists but the question will still remain who were they?

During my stint in the military, I have seen and heard of things where the brass would make deals with others (foreign or domestic) to do things and then cover them up. Don't let this tragedy run your lives, just use it as a piece of history that will eventually come back around....

Great post said with realism and of great understanding that with absolute power anything is possible.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by pss4u

There is no doubt in my mind, however that this tragedy was committed by terrorists but the question will still remain who were they?

Yep, that's exactly my sentiment as well. And the sentiment of the German secret services, the Italian secret services and according to a former Itallian president who was involved with "Gladio", a covert operation which involved the bombing of schoolbusses by the CIA and putting the blame on "communist terrorists", 9/11 was another false flag operation with involvement from Mossad.

In my parts of the woods we say when there's smoke, there's fire. sad thing is that the 9/11 comission did not examine the smoke to find where exactly the fire began. The smoke is still there, it just needs to be examined properly.

[John Scott]

While we're at it we should examine whether or not man really walked on the moon. Must have been staged by those evil Jews and the CIA.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by John Scott

While we're at it we should examine whether or not man really walked on the moon. Must have been staged by those evil Jews and the CIA.

Ah, are we going ad hominem again John? "Ad Hominem" should be added as your middle name. Time for me to back out again.

[John Scott]

It's called analogy. I applied your principle of paranoia and then took it to its logical destination. Reductio ad absurdum.