The legitimacy of wife beating - Page 3

**South** · 02-25-2008, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

sorry south - came down too hard on you. this is a sore subject with me.

It's fine. It's a sore subject with me as well. The only time I've ever been arrested and actually held in jail was for defending a lady being mishandled by her boyfriend. The judge even ordered me to pay the jackasses hospital bill. He received no penalty at all because the lady was too afraid of him to press charges.

kristeejo · 02-25-2008, 11:39 AM

yep - that's my point. it's not as easy as just "leaving" in a lot of cases. In many cases, there are children and daddy gets to visit with them and you are always afraid even with the restraining order to which daddy doesn't pay attention. : )

No one should be slapped, husband or wife. Not because one is bigger than the other necessarily but because of RESPECT for one another.

**John Scott** · 02-25-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kristeejo

yep - that's my point. it's not as easy as just "leaving" in a lot of cases. In many cases, there are children and daddy gets to visit with them and you are always afraid even with the restraining order to which daddy doesn't pay attention. : )

I don't know.

I can't imagine a court in America that wouldn't impose a restraining order against a guy from seeing his kids if he were abusive. Shoot, a woman doesn't even have to prove it any more. All she has to say is she "fears" for her safety or the safety of her children. Boom. Restraining order till the kids are 18. She can even admit that he never physically abused her, and she will still get a restraining order.

The guy ignores it? Call the cops. They'll mace him for fun, throw him in jail, and that's that.

Women have gotten restraining orders against men they never met or talked to. One woman got a restraining order against David Lettermen, claiming that he was sending coded messages over the airwaves that communicated his desire to marry her. She has also accused TV personalities Regis Philbin and Kelsey Grammer of communicating with her through televised code.

Each year in America, 500,000 domestic restraining orders are issued without even an allegation of violence. Just "fear". Men are served at work. Searched. Their guns confiscated, on the basis of what?

Yeah, actual domestic violence is evil and should be punished. But the keyword there is "actual".

Today a woman is a victim by virtue of being a woman. A man is guilty by virtue of being a man. That is a sickening reality in America today, fostered by women who are non-victims, and a few who are victims but would rather stay with their abuser because they don't want to get a job and earn their own living.

Did I overstate that? Just a tidbit.

kristeejo · 02-25-2008, 01:29 PM

I'm sorry John, but you simply don't know what you are talking about - or the laws here are far from where you have lived. You have not walked in my shoes and believe me - no one was protecting my children from anything and I tried like hell.

tdd1984 · 02-25-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0

You know thats one thing my dad told me when I was growing up was to never ever hit a girl and I never have well there was one time my X jumped on my back and I threw her off me and it about knocked her out, but she was choking me over some other girl I mean literally hanging off my neck actually I took her to the front door and threw her out she kind of flew off me on accident...

But yea thats screwed up no one should ever beat on women..

tdd1984 · 02-25-2008, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

I don't know.

I can't imagine a court in America that wouldn't impose a restraining order against a guy from seeing his kids if he were abusive. Shoot, a woman doesn't even have to prove it any more. All she has to say is she "fears" for her safety or the safety of her children. Boom. Restraining order till the kids are 18. She can even admit that he never physically abused her, and she will still get a restraining order.

The guy ignores it? Call the cops. They'll mace him for fun, throw him in jail, and that's that.

Women have gotten restraining orders against men they never met or talked to. One woman got a restraining order against David Lettermen, claiming that he was sending coded messages over the airwaves that communicated his desire to marry her. She has also accused TV personalities Regis Philbin and Kelsey Grammer of communicating with her through televised code.

Each year in America, 500,000 domestic restraining orders are issued without even an allegation of violence. Just "fear". Men are served at work. Searched. Their guns confiscated, on the basis of what?

Yeah, actual domestic violence is evil and should be punished. But the keyword there is "actual".

Today a woman is a victim by virtue of being a woman. A man is guilty by virtue of being a man. That is a sickening reality in America today, fostered by women who are non-victims, and a few who are victims but would rather stay with their abuser because they don't want to get a job and earn their own living.

Did I overstate that? Just a tidbit.

John,

Why are you such a problem?

LOL J.K

You know I love you

(not really)

I bet you was a trouble maker growing up

Atom · 02-26-2008, 07:02 AM

That's it Sean, slap that ho.

Atom · 02-26-2008, 07:06 AM

Just don't seem right.

Atom · 02-26-2008, 07:12 AM

Simple as that.

Males shouldn't strike each other either. Violence in humans just seems wrong to me.

Atom · 02-26-2008, 07:17 AM

Things like nature provide enough violence thank you.

**G10** · 02-26-2008, 08:00 AM

IMO, Violence is just humans ignorance and lack of want to understanding...

You NEVER hit anyone, let a lot your partner..

Remember that this is supposed to be the person you love, you care for, you would do anything for but if it has got to the point that one actually becomes violent (for whatever reason) to this person, then there are some serious underlying problem with that person.

Is it easy to walk away from a violent relationship, even if there are no children involved? In short, no.

If you are a kind and caring person and can see that they have an issue and want to do what you can to try to help them through this, then of course one would try.

I can not give an informed opinion on this as I have never actually been through this and felt the hurt, anger and scared emotions that some people that have felt.

Though what Sean said should have been thought through a little better as like it or not, people actually look up to stars and some are idiot enough to take him seriously.