What else can we do?

jabo · 04-28-2008, 06:00 AM

Oil prices increase again and so for other commodities as well I guess.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080428...o3QQB5i5FvaA8F

anything else that we can do?

**G10** · 04-28-2008, 01:04 PM

Buy a diesel and have the conversion so that it can use normal oil mix

There are a team of guys in the UK that have converted loads of vehicles, including a brand new Mercedes (all diesel) so that they can run on used oil that you can get for free from restaurants in those big barrels.

The government was a little miffed but have accepted it and stuck a tiny amount of tax on it... If more people did that, it would scare the bejesus out of the oil companies and trust me, their prices would drop...

btw, one of those guys drove to Portugal and back from the uk on that stuff and it works fine..

jabo · 04-28-2008, 11:21 PM

Diesel engines? Diesel engines exists for a long time now. And the price of diesel is close to that of gasoline. Are you pertaining to hybrid engines? Engines that may run on ethanol or hydrogen and other resource?

Well those engines are great but I don't think that it will be in use or popular for another few years. Well the resources for those are not available like gasoline and diesel. Not all pump stations supply those sort of alternatives.

**G10** · 04-29-2008, 01:34 AM

Re-read my previous post...

jabo · 04-29-2008, 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by G10

Re-read my previous post...

oK, get a diesel and get a conversion. Good Idea.. but its not available in my Country

**G10** · 04-29-2008, 01:52 AM

If you bought a second hand diesel car and bought the conversion kit, you could probably get a mechanic to do it.

You could then just drive around to the local restaurants and collect their used oil. Run it through a converter in your garage and bingo

Problem is that you would have to declare it otherwise your local authorities would not be happy bunnies at all.

zeruel · 04-29-2008, 02:44 AM

One thing that annoys me is that, the value of money decreases, yet prices are still going up... including foods, clothes, gasoline, etc...

Having a diesel engine would be a good thing. But I don't know if majority of cars would run on it.

hrvoje461 · 05-12-2008, 10:16 PM

Diesel is even more expensive now than regular fuel in some countries (Croatia for example).
I'm buying new car soon and planning to install LPG or natural gas or whatever is it. (for 4 cylinders car it coast around 2000 Euros)
LPG or LNG (I'm not sure what kind of gas is it) is almost three times cheaper than gasoline.

**StarLab** · 05-13-2008, 04:49 AM

Diesel is only a few cents cheaper here and likely not worth converting a vehicle over to it.

Electric Cars is another option...

jabo · 05-14-2008, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by StarLab

Diesel is only a few cents cheaper here and likely not worth converting a vehicle over to it.

Electric Cars is another option...

I would say no for electric cars and would choose converting diesel. If you would read about on how the conversion is done and which kind of alternative resource is used, you would see that it is not diesel alone but used oils from restaurants. That would definitely be cheaper than gasoline and the electricity or the electric bill one would have to pay to operate an electric vehicle. The last choice would be electric vehicles, I choose conversions, hybrids and other resource over it.

thegamerslink · 05-14-2008, 11:43 AM

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong here but, in America any how one of the chief reasons people don't want to go to an alternative type vehicle is the loss of power and things they have come accustomed to? Then the logical alternative I would think would be the Hybrid that switches from fuel to battery that increases the gas mileage of a vehicle from 20 or 30mpg to 60-100 mpg? Simple theory of it is that the vehicle runs off conventional gas, has extra batteries and alternators. While running on gas it's recharging the battery system, while battery life is available and excessive power i.e. passing etc aren't needed it runs on the batteries. When battery life drops it then switches back to fuel and does a rapid recharge of the batteries....so on the highway especially in a standard car 50-100 miles per gallon is not unrealistic at all. Without loss of major power or luxuries.

thegamerslink · 05-14-2008, 11:53 AM

The biggest thing I see as a drawback at this point is the price of the new vehicles, I think if we would put more resources into say a conversion of conventional vehicles...perhaps automakers offering a conversion/engine replacement program to it's current and past line of vehicles up to a certain year for an affordable price. If you currently have a vehicle loan through them then add the conversion price to the current loan even. I mean if you take a car that is currently getting 25 or 30 miles per gallon, increase it's mileage 300% then you're paying $1.50 a gallon for gas again essentially.

**cldnails** · 05-15-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by G10

Buy a diesel and have the conversion so that it can use normal oil mix

There are a team of guys in the UK that have converted loads of vehicles, including a brand new Mercedes (all diesel) so that they can run on used oil that you can get for free from restaurants in those big barrels.

The government was a little miffed but have accepted it and stuck a tiny amount of tax on it... If more people did that, it would scare the bejesus out of the oil companies and trust me, their prices would drop...

btw, one of those guys drove to Portugal and back from the uk on that stuff and it works fine..

Few peeps have done that around here and it smells like french fries everytime they startup.

**G10** · 05-18-2008, 02:30 AM

^ lol! Fair enough

Thing is the saving is phenomenal and it is like buying diesel but for about 1/4 of the cost and as we know, you get more to the gallon on diesel than petrol anyway so the saving is even greater.

**cldnails** · 05-18-2008, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by G10

^ lol! Fair enough

Thing is the saving is phenomenal and it is like buying diesel but for about 1/4 of the cost and as we know, you get more to the gallon on diesel than petrol anyway so the saving is even greater.

It is a nice thought, but long term there is no way for it to sustain itself. If all diesel's were converted there wouldn't be enough Crisco to support it.

megamoose · 05-18-2008, 07:44 AM

Sure in a few years there will be no more fuel because we'll have used it all. Why not start preparing now instead of waiting.

At least the oil companies are making an absolute fortune. It's unbelievable.

Mark

**cldnails** · 05-18-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by megamoose

Sure in a few years there will be no more fuel because we'll have used it all. Why not start preparing now instead of waiting.

At least the oil companies are making an absolute fortune. It's unbelievable.

Mark

Lol, a few more years. It'll be a few generations before we are dried up and when something has to be done, it will.

megamoose · 05-18-2008, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by cldnails

Lol, a few more years. It'll be a few generations before we are dried up and when something has to be done, it will.

Not too sure about that. We are really eating up on it and as eastern countries are becoming more westernized they will start using more and more.

A few years ago I think they said oil would run out in 50 years, now they're saying around 20 to 30 (source)

Next it will be 10 then 5. I don't know. We could see it in this lifetime, but we need to start preparing now. (But I can't be bothered

)

Mark