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07-31-2008, 11:39 AM
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Why doesn't anyone talk about Obama White side?
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Obama "played the race card, and he played it from the bottom of the deck," McCain campaign manager Rick Davis said in a statement. He called Obama's remarks "divisive, negative, shameful and wrong."
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Obama's mother is white. How can he be the first black president?
Obama is playing the money card.
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07-31-2008, 12:08 PM
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Someone once said that being black is like chocolate milk. You can't add a little chocolate to milk and say it isn't chocolate. It either is or it isn't. In the case of race, it's all about perception. She's perceived as black. Therefore, she's black.
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07-31-2008, 12:29 PM
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Obama's mother is white. How can he be the first black president?
Obama is playing the money card.
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I think i answered a simlar thread yesterday. In America, you must be %100 white or you are not. there is nothing little "mulatoe" or a "half cast" in America. You are either black or white. In Obama's case, Obama's father is %100 African (Kenyan) and Obama's mother is %100 white however, Obama is neither %100 black nor %100 white. Obama could be classified as either black or white in Brazil or maybe in South Africa but Here in America, Obama is considered %100 black .. 
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08-01-2008, 07:26 AM
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It's pathetic to see what an issue Americans make of someone's race or colour. It shows how primitive that culture really is if you ask me.
America, grow up and become civilized. Seriously.
People come in all kind of colours and shapes, get frikkin used to it.
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08-01-2008, 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Ferre
It's pathetic to see what an issue Americans make of someone's race or colour. It shows how primitive that culture really is if you ask me.
America, grow up and become civilized. Seriously.
People come in all kind of colours and shapes, get frikkin used to it.
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With international travel, the internet and intercultural marriages, we're all going to end up brown anyway so we might as well all get along.
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08-01-2008, 10:40 AM
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I think the political separation exists because of the social separation. Why the social separation exists I can't say. Everybody just seems to commune that way. There are white funeral homes and black ones, black neighborhoods and white ones, black churches and white ones, black clubs and white ones. It seems that anywhere people just naturally choose it turns out that way. There are, of course, exceptions.
From the outside someone may assume there's some sort of intentional segregation, but everybody is kinda making their own decisions and a pack mentality just surfaces. It's all quite friendly really. Black and white entities work together on things, join forces for special needs, raise money for projects and charities together, and many other things, but the separation is just there. It's not an exclusion, both races just sort of choose where to be, and choose the one that looks like them.
With that now surfacing on a national scene, that "looks like me" may spill over with some, but Obamas race is actually helping him and will continue to unless he makes a negative thing out of it. He's making a huge mistake with this race card and these dollar bill comparisons IMO.
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08-01-2008, 05:50 PM
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This threads and stories in the media are all a smoke screen. Race only matters to bigots.
But what these stories do is detract attention from the Mega-question, " How qualified is this man to hold the higestest elected office in the most powerful nation on the Earth"?
The color of his skin is the least of my concerns.
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08-01-2008, 08:05 PM
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In my opinion the American press is adding a great deal to this separation all the time, it's them who mention people's race every time they can. At least that's what I see from where I'm looking at it. Newspapers, tv journalists, about all of them.
I sometimes wonder if they don't realize how racist that is perceived by outsiders (meaning the rest of the world, mostly).
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08-02-2008, 02:10 AM
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With international travel, the internet and intercultural marriages, we're all going to end up brown anyway so we might as well all get along.
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How much is spent on getting a suntan each year I wonder. It would seem there is a market out there for brownness
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Originally Posted by Ferre
It's pathetic to see what an issue Americans make of someone's race or colour. It shows how primitive that culture really is if you ask me.
America, grow up and become civilized. Seriously.
People come in all kind of colours and shapes, get frikkin used to it.
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I have to agree with Ferre's sentiments here. Get over your prejudices people. I would not direct that message to just Americans though, it seems to be a universal aspect of humans throughout the world. That don't make it right though.
Basing important decisions on skin colour is just stupid.
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08-02-2008, 06:29 AM
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If you ask me I'd say basing any decisions on skin colour is both stupid and primitive.
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08-02-2008, 08:39 AM
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After reading all the comments, I have to ask myself, what is the definition of black? Being a product of the sixties, I was brought up that you were only black, if your parents were.
I was raised in an all white neighborhood and did not see very many blacks until high school. If you had one black parent and something other, I considered you mixed.
Time has a way of changing things. Although I don`t care one way or the other, there are still people who think this way. To me, Dr. King said it best. " Judge a man by his charactor, not his skin color" or something to that affect.
Obama is just another smooth snake oil salesman. He reminds me of Jim Jones. Although I did vote for Bush. I may sit this one out because McCain is too old and he may forget what Country we`re going to war with next.
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08-02-2008, 10:13 AM
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Obama is just another smooth snake oil salesman. He reminds me of Jim Jones. Although I did vote for Bush. I may sit this one out because McCain is too old and he may forget what Country we`re going to war with next.
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Just curious, if McCain picked a strong enough VP would that motivate you one way or the other? I ask because I think with as weak a selection of candidates as we have this year that matters more to me than it usually would....and especially with McCain, as he almost certainly would be able to do no more than one term.
You've seen how much worse people look after just four or eight years in the presidential office...it's like they age two decades. So taking into consideration McCain's age and current condition, if he were to pick a VP that you would actually want as president, would you vote?
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08-02-2008, 11:12 AM
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Probanly not......
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Just curious, if McCain picked a strong enough VP would that motivate you one way or the other? I ask because I think with as weak a selection of candidates as we have this year that matters more to me than it usually would....and especially with McCain, as he almost certainly would be able to do no more than one term.
You've seen how much worse people look after just four or eight years in the presidential office...it's like they age two decades. So taking into consideration McCain's age and current condition, if he were to pick a VP that you would actually want as president, would you vote?
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McCain`s VP might make a difference. The one thing I like about McCain is he tries to work with both Dems and Reps.
I`m more concerned with 99% of our elected officials who by any standards are common criminals.
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08-02-2008, 11:18 PM
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his race should not matter, but I believe his own team plays on it. I also believe it is working to his advantage bigtime. Not saying that you shouldn't explore everything when campaigning, but appealing to "white guilt" seems to be a huge part of his strategy.
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08-03-2008, 01:56 AM
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If you ask me I'd say basing any decisions on skin colour is both stupid and primitive.
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I stand corrected
Although being brown myself I do like to choose t-shirts that don't clash with my skin colour. I guess that is not one of the important decisions though.
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... but appealing to "white guilt" seems to be a huge part of his strategy.
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That is a double edge sword. There is no way to say which way it will cut in the long run.
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08-03-2008, 03:21 AM
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Speaking of VP, McCain is publicly vetting this guy. I'm just now reading up on him, but from what I see I'd rather see him at the top of the ticket over McCain. He looks good at a glance.
They're selling him on these points:
- Conservative - Great if his record shows that to be true
- From a key battleground state - Good
- Young - McCain needs that
- Trusted by true conservative voters - McCain lacks there as well
- Strongly Pro-Israel - Very good
- A proven tax cutter
- A small business owner - Law office I think, but hey.....
- Southern - Bush claimed to be southern and isn't. Cantor's at least a genuine southerner.
We'll see.
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08-03-2008, 04:30 AM
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Strongly Pro-Israel - Very good
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As a matter of interest, why is this important to the USA 
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