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Old 09-05-2008, 10:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Barack Obama A Citizen? Prove It!

This appears to be from the website of the actual filer of the the lawsuit...

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SERVICE OF LAWSUIT CHALLENGING SENATOR OBAMA’S RIGHT TO BE A CANDIDATE FOR PRESIDENT BECAUSE HE DOES NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS HAS BEEN COMPLETED

Contact information at the end of this press release. Documents filed with the court and a copy of this press release can be downloaded at the end of this press release.

(Lafayette Hill, Pennsylvania – 09/04/0 - Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, has received confirmation from his Process Service Company that the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Senator Barack Obama were served today, September 4, 2008, with the legal documents pertaining to Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083.

The DNC was served at 12:00 p.m. and Senator Obama was served at 1:00 p.m. The U.S. Attorney’s Office accepted service on behalf of the Federal Elections Committee (FEC) on or about August 22, 2008.
News coverage.....http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...ty-for-office/

Funny it was very difficult to find a news source other than blogs giving out information about this?
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Old 09-06-2008, 08:56 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Interesting.

If this lawsuit has any merit, then good on him for calling Obama on it. Rules are rules.
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Old 09-06-2008, 09:11 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I've been following this for a few weeks, and they're going to have a tough time with it. I'm curious to see where it goes. There was also talk that adoption papers had been retrieved which shows that he was legally adopted and became at that time a citizen of a country that doesn't allow dual citizenship, meaning his new guardians would have signed away his American citizenship, and that the proper official measures were never taken to reestablish it.

I've been following it curiously but not talking about it because it's likeliness seemed so slim. They were threatening to have the lawsuit filed before the end of the Democratic Convention. When that didn't happen I dismissed it as dribble. Now that they've actually filed and served I'm really interested in seeing where it goes.

**OK, I see that they did file before the convention.**
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If this does happen, the media, the journalist are the one's to blame for this because they refused to check out his background and history
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Old 09-06-2008, 11:28 AM   #5 (permalink)
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If this does happen, the media, the journalist are the one's to blame for this because they refused to check out his background and history
I've got to take issue with this statement.
If Obama isn't eligible to run, he's got nobody to blame but himself.
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I have mixed feelings on this myself. I find it hard to believe the DNC wouldn't vet better than that, but at the same time I wouldn't be surprised. And it would throw a whole new aura of lack of validity if McCain/Palin won the election after something like that happened.

Is there a precedence of what would happen in the case he was found as disqualified?

Seems the only 3 options would be the automatic appointing of Joe Biden since he is the VP candidate or, the next one in line, Hillary Clinton, or having to hold another run off. which would be done?
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Barack Obama was born on August 4, 1961, in Honolulu, Hawaii. Being born on US soil entitles him to US citizenship.
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On the one side, I full commend and encourage those who question his legality to chase this accusation to it's full extent. It's what keeps us honest.

On the other side, I hope this lawsuit finds Obama to be 100% legit and legal. I won't vote for him, but I do not like the implications this creates.
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There's an online radio station I listen to that's had this guy on several times which is how I knew about it. The points of his lawsuit are several. I'm not saying he's right or wrong, I don't know. He has several lawyers working on it with him and they seem to think there's something to it.

What I've heard him say (loosely)

People are subject to the laws and rules that existed at the time they were born. At the time he was born, he would not have been a citizen because of the nationality of his father and the age of his mother combined. If only one parent was a natural citizen then the other must have been a citizen for X number of years. Because of the age of the mother at the time she couldn't have qualified. People in that position had the burden of taking steps to ensure the citizenship of the child. That has since been corrected, but again, you're subject to the laws of your own birth.

Also, Obama went to school in Indonesia or somewhere like that. It was his adopted parents who enrolled him at that school. The school in question doesn't accept anyone who isn't a citizen of that country and never has. That country doesn't allow dual citizenship. It would have been the responsibility of the adoptive parents to obtain citizenship for him or enrollment wouldn't have been allowed. Legal renouncement of American citizenship would be required. If that's the case, natural born or not, he's not a legal citizen unless he's taken legal measures to reinstate it.

They had other things as well. I doubt this will grow legs. Not because I think Obama wouldn't lie, he's lied dozens of time since the election started. I just can't imagine the Democrats wouldn't have vetted him well enough to at least make sure he was legal to run. They're pretty slimy but surely not stupid.
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There's also the question as to whether he was born in Kenya or America. The birth document he produced can be obtained after the fact by a parent. The lawyer was adamant that he had people who could back much of this up and were willing to.

A caller to the show said she went to the Republican headquarters in her city to "enlighten" them about it. They told her that the Rep. party was already very aware of it and had instructions to make no "on the record" acknowledgment of it until it reached the proper level in the legal process. In other words, shut up about it til you know it's solid, otherwise you'll end up looking like assassins.

I'm not that up on it, but again it's interesting.
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As much as I'd like to see Obama tossed to the curb, this lawsuit is as useless and gratuitous as the attempts to invalidate Goldwater's and McCain's citizenship.
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As much as I'd like to see Obama tossed to the curb, this lawsuit is as useless and gratuitous as the attempts to invalidate Goldwater's and McCain's citizenship.
I expect you're right. I hope it doesn't fly. If he were to become ineligible the Hillary would take the reigns and the Democrats would most likely win the election. I don't believe Obama can.

Still, it's good and shows that there are watchdogs out there willing to challenge you.
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I've got it all garbled up. Here's the guy who's doing it.

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I am glad to see validation taking place on both sides. That way regardless the out come of the election the winner will be legitimate and we won't have to listen to another 4-8 years of he/she stole the election, or not qualified to be....etc....we need more unity of recognition than what there has been since 2000.
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