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sitetutor 12-26-2008 11:57 PM

Global warming = a lie?
 
http://epw.senate.gov/speechitem.cfm...=rep&id=263759

http://www.globalwarmingheartland.or....cfm?TopId=696

http://www.junkscience.com/Greenhouse/

http://scienceandpublicpolicy.org/mo...oreerrors.html

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2008/06/0...-vs-the-truth/

http://www.jbs.org/index.php/environ...ewardship-blog

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11646

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/05/27...n-offset-scam/

http://michellemalkin.com/2008/11/12...nviro-nitwits/

You can also tune in to learn more:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/firetow...her-non-issues

One of the biggest lies ever. Designed to take away our freedoms.
Read the articles, listen to the show and understand how Al Gore has used and misled the public and the general confusion about what is really going on in the athmosphere.

Pass it on.

Obama has already started misstating things, and it becomes more than obvious that global warming is going to play a major factor in scarring the public into getting certain bills passed.

http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/default...-12-2008_pg3_4

Ferre 12-27-2008 04:29 AM

Ah, more worldnutdaily conspiracies.

:lol:

The problem with the whole global warming issue is that indeed politicians and their handlers from the industries are trying to turn it into a profitable venture, that does not mean that the effects on our planet caused by pollution are not real, or the greenhouse effect or the hole in the ozon layer.

Fact is that the greenhouse efect caused by humans is NOT a scam, but some industries (with the help from *some* politicians) DO try to scam people into accepting "solutions" which are not solutions at all and are only designed to benefit those industries. Like their trade in emission levels.


I sometimes wonder why those worldnetdaily nutters don't have the ability to distinct between the scientific facts and what politicians make of it.

:lol:

Ferre 12-27-2008 04:39 AM

BTW Mike. Michelle Malkin has about as much journalistic credibility as Bill O'Reilly, Hannity or Ann Coultier, namely; "zero".

It's these kind of pseudo journalistic charlatans who spread bullcrap all the time and way to many poor un-intellectual suckers buy their lies and nonsense with the result that forums like this have treads with titles like the one sporting this topic.


:lol:

homebizseo 12-27-2008 08:04 AM

The scientific facts are clear. We have not completely gotten out of the ice age yet.

farhan713 12-27-2008 08:15 AM

the only solution is honesty and truthful people, we need honest politicians, honest politicians need honest public & very few people like and want to be honest. why do many of us dislike being honest?

krahmaan 12-27-2008 07:53 PM

I guess I can say I agree with you on this.
I have faith that no matter what we men do to pollute her.
Mother nature can muster enough strength to compensate for it.
We claim to be the world powers, but what about when the Earth shakes?
Anytime the forces of nature start to working, we can then see how much power we have not.

nks 12-27-2008 09:56 PM

How true Global warming is, it's another question. But the fact that temperature is constantly rising over the centuries, that is real.

Franc Tireur 12-28-2008 11:00 AM

Global warming is a cycle of our solar system. But it is not a bad thing that we are taking care of our planet better than we were before.

krahmaan 12-28-2008 06:25 PM

I also think that it's natural. The newer generations are always stronger than the old.
As we age, we fall more victim to the heat and could suffer heat stroke. But hasn't it
always been that way? Every since I was a kid I can remember that people could die
from severe heat. Anyone can, if out in it without water for too long. But I still look
around and see children playing in the hot sun just like I use to do. To them hot is hot, and
cold is cold. They have so much energy that they can't tell how hot it is. Anyhow, I
think that even if it may be getting hotter. The newer generations will adapt to the
hotter temperatures. Just as we, and our parents did as children.

All the raging about 'global warming' and that 'the world is coming to an end' is all scare
tactics to me. Ways to market new products that feed off fear. I have explained lots
of these facts in a short book I wrote entitled The Evasive American Dream.

antirem 12-31-2008 01:39 PM

The evidence is in ice core samples...

I can seem to find anything persuasive against the ice core argument.

xentech 01-03-2009 06:40 AM

Global warming is not a lie, I'm sick of this. The effects of global warming are OBSERVABLE. Fair enough, maybe politicians are lying about the cause of it to try and shape what is happening but they haven't created global warming out of thin air and forged multitudes of evidence to support it, stop misinforming people.

Ferre 01-03-2009 12:26 PM

As I've been saying for years already, people should stop using misleading terminology to promote their own agenda. With people I mean the politicians and industrial lobbyists who, with the help from the media, create all sort of hypes to get the public to support their plans to get rich out of it all.

The real issue is plain and simple pollution. We humans dump too much toxic chemicals into the water, air, ground and many creatures' life circle and this, supported by additional eradication of plants, resources and wildlife messes up the natural balance at this planet in such a way that it will choke all of us in the end.

Species are vanishing from this earth due to pollution and me thinks it is time for humanity to realize that we breath the same air that's killing other living beings, we are dependent on the same food chain which is killing other species and we must realize that we are the ones adding the poison in that chain.

All the rest, "global warming", "Al Gore", etc, are just distractions from the real issue to make it profitable for the very same industries that messed it up in the first place.
Those people should start thinking what effect all those cfk's, toxic metals like cadmium, lead and copper and nuclear particles like depleted uranium, insectisides, Monsanto's genetic modified foods resitant to those pesticides and such have on humans, instead of all that climate gibberish. (but that's just my personal view, of course)

Whether all those toxic chemicals in the air and our food chain cause the temperatures to rise or fall is irrelevant in the bigger picture which is that we are poisoning our vital elements for living.

Do we need to stop polluting this place in order for our future generations to have a change to live a life without cancer or worse as a default human condition? You decide.

OleTom 01-03-2009 05:40 PM

I don't believe it's a lie the weather has really changed in the past 10 years. what has caused the weather changes ?

Harveyj 01-05-2009 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OleTom (Post 1004848)
I don't believe it's a lie the weather has really changed in the past 10 years. what has caused the weather changes ?

Well, it certainly isn't global warming, because every good patriot knows that's a lie invented by the Antichrist that is Al Gore... So it must have been God, because he'd never allow it to happen

[/sarcasm]

pgzn 01-12-2009 09:59 AM

A little perspective always exposes the lie.

Out of every 100,000 molecules of air, how many do you suppose are molecules of CO2, the evil gas environuts say causes global warming?

Answer - 39.

How many are man-made molecules of CO2?

Answer - 1.

If "man-made greenhouse gas emissions" continue unabated, ignoring all efforts by environuts to curtail them over the next 5 to 10 years, how many more CO2 molecules will there be per 100,000 of air?

Answer - 1 more.

In other words, if we pay absolutely no attention to the environuts and keep pumping CO2 in the air around the world as much as we are now, in 10 years the man-made CO2 content of the atmosphere will increase from one-onehundrendthousandth to two-onehundredthousandths. Man-made greenhouse gas emissions are irrelevant to the world's weather.

Is it worth destroying the world economy or burdening the world economy by even one dollar?

Answer - no

It's a hoax.

dWhite 01-12-2009 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgzn (Post 1010392)
A little perspective always exposes the lie.

Out of every 100,000 molecules of air, how many do you suppose are molecules of CO2, the evil gas environuts say causes global warming?

Answer - 39.

How many are man-made molecules of CO2?

Answer - 1.

If "man-made greenhouse gas emissions" continue unabated, ignoring all efforts by environuts to curtail them over the next 5 to 10 years, how many more CO2 molecules will there be per 100,000 of air?

Answer - 1 more.

In other words, if we pay absolutely no attention to the environuts and keep pumping CO2 in the air around the world as much as we are now, in 10 years the man-made CO2 content of the atmosphere will increase from one-onehundrendthousandth to two-onehundredthousandths. Man-made greenhouse gas emissions are irrelevant to the world's weather.

Is it worth destroying the world economy or burdening the world economy by even one dollar?

Answer - no

It's a hoax.

Might want to back this up with some sources of scientific research, otherwise it's just a useless statement to most people. ;)

pgzn 01-12-2009 10:07 AM

Scientific reasearch? It's basic 9th grade mathematics. CO2 is a trace gas, which occurs at the concemntration of 385 parts per million in the atmosphere. Do the math.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

dWhite 01-12-2009 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgzn (Post 1010394)
Scientific reasearch? It's basic 9th grade mathematics. CO2 is a trace gas, which occurs at the concemntration of 385 parts per million in the atmosphere. Do the math.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide

The average person doesn't know this, so I was just asking, no need to make me feel stupid.

pgzn 01-12-2009 10:24 AM

Thats the problem with the average person. How can someone be against co2 and not know at least how much there actually is or that it is a trace gas?

Not trying to make you feel stupid, but it reminds me of the Penn & Teller petition drive to ban water. Hundreds signed the petition without even asking.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

Additional co2 is one of the great blessings of increased warming. And you did know that warming precedes co2 increase didn't you. Although Al Gore would like you to believe the opposite - that added co2 brought the warming.

Quote:

Carbon dioxide is not the dreaded greenhouse gas that the global warmers crack it up to be. It is in fact the most important airborne fertiliser in the world and without it there would be no green plants at all. In fact, a doubling of the levels of this gas in the atmosphere would bring about a marked rise in plant production — good news for everyone, especially those malnourished millions who can’t afford chemical fertilisers. Perhaps the time is ripe to really start worrying (again) about the fact that for the last 200 million years the concentration of carbon dioxide in our atmosphere has been falling. Indeed it dropped to dangerously low levels during recent ice ages. The Plant Kingdom responded to this potentially catastrophic (no carbon no food) situation by producing the so-called C4 plants that can survive low CO2 by using sunlight more efficiently.

http://www.climate-skeptic.com/2007/...nefits-of.html

dWhite 01-12-2009 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgzn (Post 1010402)
Thats the problem with the average person. How can someone be against co2 and not know at least how much there actually is?

Not trying to make you feel stupid, but it reminds me of the Penn & Teller petition drive to ban water.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yi3erdgVVTw

Co2 isn't the main cause of global warming. CFC's play a major part, as they eat the ozone layer alive. Another cause is your individual carbon footprint.

I'm not against Co2, the plant life needs it to live and we need the plant life to live.


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