unlimited hosting by resellers... how?

funguru · Share | #1 (**permalink**) 08-05-2009, 07:21 AM

I have seen many small resellers offering unlimited space and bandwidth... how is that possible?

Hostin4u · #2 (**permalink**) 08-05-2009, 06:30 PM

It is possible by limiting the ammount of server resources that you can use, read the resellers TOS and you will see.

S. Warren,
Hostin4u UK

Hostnetric · #3 (**permalink**) 08-05-2009, 06:48 PM

Many of these accounts are with companies that allow overselling. In addition the company that is supplying them with hosting is allowing them to put together and unlimited plan. Hosts who sell to resellers can disallow this function to their clients thus stopping this practice.

I will not go with an unlimited plan ever and would not ever offer one. Packages are simply to large and nothing more then gimmicks these days with the real limits being in the system resources allowed.

!Matt · #4 (**permalink**) 08-05-2009, 09:34 PM

They are witches!

Jk, It's overselling. I do agree in the fact you should NEVER go with one of these companies, but I've noticed surpass has started offering this; so just read the T+C.

funguru · #5 (**permalink**) 08-05-2009, 09:51 PM

yes.. but if you are hosting very low resource websites, then overselling will not be an issue?

Hostnetric · #6 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by funguru

yes.. but if you are hosting very low resource websites, then overselling will not be an issue?

Very true. However, many hosts will put a low price in conjunction with their unlimited plans and have to place a large number of domains on a server to make a profit. This slows down the servers eventually as well as the system resources are taxed by more and more clients.

The sad part is that to even compete you have to offer outrageous packages that you know are not realistic to begin with.

SyfonicHosting · #7 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by funguru

I have seen many small resellers offering unlimited space and bandwidth... how is that possible?

Most of the time those people signup for Unlimited Master Reseller accounts and really believe their hosts when they tell them that they will really get unlimited space and bandwidth...

funguru · #8 (**permalink**) 08-06-2009, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hostnetric

The sad part is that to even compete you have to offer outrageous packages that you know are not realistic to begin with.

My point exactly... how does one compete with them?

.Andy · #9 (**permalink**) 08-07-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by funguru

My point exactly... how does one compete with them?

Honesty and Education. Educating clients forums ect will help alot.

keeper · #10 (**permalink**) 08-08-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by funguru

I have seen many small resellers offering unlimited space and bandwidth... how is that possible?

There is no such thing as unlimited, it's called deceptive advertising. Some companies, like dreamhost, take it further and offer something like "unlimited + 50GB" disk space which makes absolutely no sense. It's quite sad.

Hostnetric · #11 (**permalink**) 08-09-2009, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by keeper

There is no such thing as unlimited, it's called deceptive advertising. Some companies, like dreamhost, take it further and offer something like "unlimited + 50GB" disk space which makes absolutely no sense. It's quite sad.

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What the heck does "Unlimited + 50GB" mean; it's nonsensical?!
It means two things.

One, it's sort of a joke! We're poking a little fun at our industry's never-ending "arms race" to offer more and more disk and bandwidth.

For more than a decade, it's been like:

Other Hosts: "10MB"
DreamHost: "20MB"
Other Hosts: "50MB!"
DreamHost: "100MB!"
Other Hosts: "500MB!!"
DreamHost: "1GB!!"
Other Hosts: "100GB!!!"
DreamHost: "500GB!!!"
And finally:

Other Hosts: "UNLIMITED GB!!!!"

.... to which we had no choice but to reply ....

"UNLIMITED + 50GB!!!!"

That is from one of their info pages about that.

The funny thing is they are right. It seems everyone is always trying to market with more gimmicks that are better then the last guy, but where do you go now.

The way the industry is battling it out has left the big hosts with no choice, but to offer the same as other hosts. The progression of the package sizes in the past 3 years has been complete nonsense. Sure there are arguments that this is all a normal progression, but honestly was it not just a couple years ago that if you were a host offering unlimited bandwidth or storage that you were crucified by everyone for scamming people. Now it seems that it is expected and considered standard.

HL-Sean · #12 (**permalink**) 08-26-2009, 03:07 PM

Its not possible to offer unlimited resources, most of these have a TOS that makes it impossible to use unlimited resources. You can not fit unlimited hard drives in a server therefore there is a limit on how much space you can use.

As for bandwidth its possible to offer unmetered bandwidth.

ldcdc · #13 (**permalink**) 08-29-2009, 11:01 AM

It's one thing to sell unlimited hosting to individuals (associate it with "all you can eat" establishments if you will), and a whole other thing to allow them to resell off an unlimited account. In both cases though, on average, it'll all come down to how much you're paying. The less you pay, the less you'll get, and the less you should expect.

howardroark · #14 (**permalink**) 09-04-2009, 02:57 AM

To put it bluntly, unlimited hosting is a LIE. A marketing gimmick. All bandwidth is paid. No one can offer unlimited hosting. NO ONE usually consumes more than a few hundred megabytes a month, that's why they can get away with it.

ldcdc · #15 (**permalink**) 09-04-2009, 06:04 PM

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NO ONE usually consumes more than a few hundred megabytes a month

That is true, though I do know of people using something like 5TB of data transfer and hundreds of GBs of space at some of these hosts.

rumsfo · #16 (**permalink**) 09-25-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by funguru

I have seen many small resellers offering unlimited space and bandwidth... how is that possible?

That is so called oversellers. Better avoid dealing with them

websiteguy · #17 (**permalink**) 09-25-2009, 06:59 AM

there is no such thing called unlimited be aware of such terms
always go for host which offers with what he has got in his pocket.
if you are tired to find good hosts than better try us

~ServerPoint~ · #18 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by websiteguy

there is no such thing called unlimited be aware of such terms
always go for host which offers with what he has got in his pocket.
if you are tired to find good hosts than better try us

What you said is right accept your self promotion which is not allowed

**ScriptMan** · #19 (**permalink**) 09-28-2009, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by funguru

My point exactly... how does one compete with them?

Why do you want them? Clients that believe in the Easter bunny are the same 5% that use 90% of support's time.

Offer a product that you can deliver and catch them when they grow some smarts and are looking for a real plan.

rumsfo · #20 (**permalink**) 09-29-2009, 03:30 AM

No need to compete with such companies. Do your own business for your customers satisfaction and they will appreciate it