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Old 05-18-2005, 12:43 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Hey everyone,

I'm going to start offering hosting on one of my sites, does anyone know a good company to resell for? I am with 1and1 now and love their service, not to mention their pricing, but I haven't seen any reseller programs through them.

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Old 05-18-2005, 04:52 PM   #2 (permalink)
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1 and 1 has an affiliate program you might want to look at. http://order.1and1.com/xml/order/Affiliate


but if its a reseller account your looking for where instead of referrals your the one actually setting up such clients, I would suggest looking at the top hosts from this forum, www.hostdetective.net , or others suggested by members.

another way is to request in the request forum a quote for reseller hosting plans.
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Old 05-22-2005, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Yes, I would recommend finding a good reseller plan with Web Host Manager and cPanel. It is pretty easy to setup people up when they buy. www.site5.com has a pretty good reseller program.
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Old 05-22-2005, 05:01 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I'm currently a reseller for www.realwebhost.net and they are seriously the best web hosting company I've ever worked with... 24/7 phone, email and IM support, great uptimes, and very competitively priced plans. PM me if you have any questions, and I'll try to answer them and give you their contact info.
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Old 05-26-2005, 11:35 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Hosting Zoom is good as well, have had no problems with them. But there is also reseller Zoom, have not tried that !
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www.servtex.com has great reseller accounts aswell.
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I would recomened site5.com I have been looking through a lot of companies and they look the best I think.

I'm about to go sign up for them myself.
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i really liked site5.com but 99$ 1 year is costly for me.... searching some other sites....
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Old 05-17-2007, 05:38 AM   #11 (permalink)
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i really liked site5.com but 99$ 1 year is costly for me.... searching some other sites....
I think it's a normal price for a decent hosting.
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Old 05-21-2007, 12:59 AM   #12 (permalink)
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just read through site5 reseller plan. its good in features.
featuring the overselling is allow, this is a good features. not many reseller plan allowing this.

let us know after you had using them
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I don't think overselling is a good thing. You'll have much downtime in future.
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I don't think overselling is a good thing. You'll have much downtime in future.
I completely agree with you Karooki! Overselling is probably one of the easiest ways to get into big problems when running any kind of hosting service.

If you stop for a moment and think about it, then 100 GB for every customer seems to make sense, knowing full well that most of them will only use 1 GB.

The problem comes when you get people using more of their limits - perhaps their site becomes really popular, or they're looking for the cheapest plan they can find which the "capacity" they need.

When this happens you have to start suspending accounts / asking people to upgrade etc. even when they're not over their limits - a sure way to get into trouble, perhaps even legal trouble!

Either way, you can expect bad publicity and a lot of unhappy customers as a result. The alternative is that you let them go on and use a large portion of your service which either leaves you out of pocket (because you sell so cheap), and/or leaves your service poor/unreliable for all customers - overloaded servers etc.

So for exactly the same reasons that you should select a hosting provider offering sensible resource limits at a sensible price (i.e. so that your hosting will work - they're not overselling), you should also avoid that same pitfall yourself as a reseller.

With regards to finding a reseller - unless a provider stipulates that you can't resell their services (I would suggest that you actually ask them to be safe, rather than relying on it not being in their t&c's) you can most likely resell that plan.

Again, you'll find that those providers who are overselling won't be willing for you to resell from a plan that isn't specifically intended for "resellers" - because they're scared you'll want to use the majority of resources "offered".

However, since you want to avoid those companies anyway - not a problem!

Take a look around for some decent hosting companies, and send them some emails etc. to see what they can offer you. You should look to do this anyway (rather than just pick a plan off a page) because as a reseller you want to build a good relationship with your provider/partner because they'll be there to advise you and keep your service working.

If you find yourself talking to lots of different people in the company and/or people who don't know what they're talking about - perhaps not the best provider to rely on given that your reputation will depend on their ability to operate a decent hosting service (and fix problems promptly etc.).
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I don't think overselling is a good thing. You'll have much downtime in future.

EVERYONE oversells it's just a matter of staying on top and moving accounts to keep the servers running smoothly.
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EVERYONE oversells it's just a matter of staying on top and moving accounts to keep the servers running smoothly.
I don't think that's true.

I agree that overselling can be managable providing that it is minor - obviously the question becomes "how much overselling" rather than none/any.

However, I should clarify that (at least when I refer it) overselling is the large scale complete dishonesty that plagues the hosting industry as one of numerous sources of incompetence.

So I'm not saying that if you have a 100 GB server and sell 125 GB you'll hit problems, but something more extreme like 500 GB is likely to make it difficult for you to cope with.

There's also the other side of it where providers advertise large amounts of data transfer (bandwidth) knowing full well that the majority of sites reaching anywhere near that monthly usage would fall foul of a CPU time clause in the terms - therefore forced to upgrade / terminate etc.

It's clear when you compare hosting plans from different providers that there are different levels of overselling on show - most providers operating in the same country will have similar overheads, and if you consider the server purchase/rental costs alone (which are quite easy to find out) then you'll see that hardly any are sustainable without filling up the servers way past full = slow/unreliable service.

Yes, if you have plenty of servers and can easily move people around it is easier to manage the issue - but the issue still exists and is still ready to cause you and your customers problems.
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I don't think overselling is a good thing. You'll have much downtime in future.
not to get confused with term overselling...
at least i was

if your host given your 20gb in reseller. you allocate 1gb each. then you will have 20 account. probably you cant cover cost with this.

with overselling, you can use the unused space on each account. for example when 20 account, they just used up 5gb. so you got 15gb coming from no where. and with overselling feature ON, you and continue to sell on the 1gb plan. which.. meaning you can sell much more than 20 account.
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I personally hate overselling. I know why they do it. Hosting is a very cut throat industry and its almost imposible to make money with out some kind of 'value added' services.

Its so hard to sell accounts and limit them to a low number that the people on your server can acutally use the disk space and bandwidth they pay for. How would you like having an account that might give you 100gigs of transfer. For months you use less than 20 gigs but you provide something, legal of course, that gets picked up by alot of sites and your transfer jumps to 90gigs for a few months. You would not like getting a call or email from your host telling you to cut back or your account will get suspended.

When your host oversells to much then they will get hit with fines or will be faced with having to cut off customers prior to the customer actually using the bandwidth they paid for.

You can also have a host that oversells their disk space. That is even worse as you cant always just drop more disk space on a remotly hosted webserver. How would you like paying for 50gigs of storage and while you normally may only use a few small gigs you may wish to temporally back up some home videos you have taken so you upload them to your hosting site only to find you cant upload them all because of disk limits on the server itself not the limit on your account.

Again your paying for something you cant make full use of.
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If you want to become a reseller from a decent web hosting company for affordable prices I consider valuhost.com may be O'k for you ($20 per month only, Disk Space 750MB, Data Transfer 20GB).
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Until your account holders start to actually use close to their quota and end up using all of the 20gb allocated to your reseller account. Then you have people paying for 1 amount and you being unable to provide that amount to them.
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