If you're good at SEO, can you answer this?

[terry0107]

Thanks for sharing.

[ggwinner]

Originally Posted by link8r

Well we've built some 800 natural links in and it ain't helping

geez, and I'm called a spammer all over the place for my twenty something ****ty links I have ...

Originally Posted by Cormac

Mine isn't. I have the only non-WP / CMS powered entry in the competition that appears on the current top 10.

bluejumper.net I think is too...and mine errr (current top 12 actually -I went down... )

Regards all,
ggwinner dor com

[link8r]

I haven't built 800, Google just says so on the home page - first number you see. It's about 45 (in backlinkwatch.com) and about 70 when you go through Google to the end (when searching for the domain). So it's no more than at least 4 of the sites on the first page and a lot less than some!

Do the rules rule out AdWords for definite?

Who do you think will win?

http://www.asgaelige.com/ is doing very well this week too!

[Blue Flame]

Originally Posted by link8r

I haven't built 800, Google just says so on the home page - first number you see. It's about 45 (in backlinkwatch.com) and about 70 when you go through Google to the end (when searching for the domain). So it's no more than at least 4 of the sites on the first page and a lot less than some!

Do the rules rule out AdWords for definite?

Who do you think will win?

The 800 refers to the keyword matches for your domain. Not for backlinks.

The 45 links from backlinkwatch seem to be either a combined total from a number of SE's or their numbers are flakey to say the least. Most of the 'backlinks' aren't backlinks and some of them are gone now as LouderVoice deleted references to your site as Conor felt, rightly, that you spammed LV.

Adwords has nothing to do with this competition. It's an organic listing that wins the price. Nothing to do with AdWords. You read the rules, right? I can't believe you are offering SEO Services.

Originally Posted by link8r

Who do you think will win?

Hopefully a site which uses proper SEO techniques will win the competition. Interesting that the site you mentioned to be doing well is the other main spammer in this competition. It would seem that "Aithnionn ciarog ciarog eile" is true in this case!

[link8r]

Originally Posted by Blue Flame

It's an organic listing that wins the price. Nothing to do with AdWords. You read the rules, right? I can't believe you are offering SEO Services.

Yes Cormac I did read the rules, did you?

Originally Posted by www.mulley.net

You have until December 1st at 3pm to rank your website for the following phrase: geansai gorm. Yup, we’re using a phrase as gaelige in order as as not to pollute the indices as much as possible.
Criteria:

* Entries open to all Irish individuals and Irish businesses.
* Search is to be performed on google.ie. Without Pages From Ireland selected, with personalisation off and from an Irish IP address.
* The domain to rank must be a new domain. Must not contain the keywords in the domain name at all and no ccTLD domains are to be used.
* Only want the homepage to rank, not other non-useful pages.
* 301 redirects are not permitted.
* Keywords as gaeilge instead of english but copy can be in English

I've read this a few times as it turns out. It doesn't say organic. Yes, I know I'm the first person to raise this. But this says you have to be first, it can't be a ccTLD, it must be a new domain and only the homepage to rank.

Yes, like everyone, I've assumed it's organic because it's an SEO competition. But it's a good question because he's left out the word organic. AdWords have ranks too

Just because I raised the question, I still think it's a good one, doesn't mean I dont understand SEO....and I'm very glad I offer SEO services, we've done quite well to date.

As for spam and social networks - I've never used this commercially. That's why I entered the competition....for experiment sake. If you can't experiment in SEO, you can't go on in SEO.....except you, Google have obviously appointed you as an expert. Wonder how one goes about doing that....

[pinkfluffybunny]

Originally Posted by link8r

Thanks for taking a look pinkfluffybunny.

For static - do you mean HTML ? Why static? ASP and PHP works fine too, this is PHP

One of our web designers set it up for me.

Yes, Geansai - Jumper, gorm - blue, as gaelge (in Irish)

Static, asp, or php, the problem is not dynamic, it's the code you are using. Xhtml is a third party standard.

Without looking at your logs I can't tell for sure what the spiders are doing, but from looking at the code and other stuff, my guess is it's your cms code and other stuff. It's not the php that's killing you.

do a tracert on your domain - it doesn't resolve correctly....... ouch - Google no likey

You're sharing an IP with 580 other domains - think any one of them is being a bad boy - those all resolve to the same name, that IP gets blocked by one provider or country and Google will treat your site like theirs.... Googlle doesn't like sending people to sites they may not be able to see.


get a decent host for a start......

[Blue Flame]

Originally Posted by link8r

Yes Cormac I did read the rules, did you?

Yup. I did read the rules. I read them a few times. I even helped Damien put them together. It was my idea to go with the keywords in Irish to reduce spam. Can you say: IRONY?

Originally Posted by link8r

I've read this a few times as it turns out. It doesn't say organic. Yes, I know I'm the first person to raise this. But this says you have to be first, it can't be a ccTLD, it must be a new domain and only the homepage to rank.

Yes, like everyone, I've assumed it's organic because it's an SEO competition. But it's a good question because he's left out the word organic. AdWords have ranks too

It's not a good question since this is a SEO competition and not a SEM one, or even a CPM one, or even an Analytics based contest. If the contest sought results on impressions or hits then the original blog post would have stipulated that.

If you know as much about SEO as you think you do you wouldn't have to ask if Adwords was a part of this competition. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by link8r

Just because I raised the question, I still think it's a good one, doesn't mean I dont understand SEO....

In my opinion you don't understand much about SEO. And absolutely nada about positive user experiences (which is what SEO is becoming btw)* since you seem to be solely focused on spamming and not developing anything of worth.

Originally Posted by link8r

As for spam and social networks - I've never used this commercially. That's why I entered the competition....for experiment sake.

So are you admitting to spamming now? I'm confused by what you just said because earlier you said you weren't spamming but now you are "experimenting" with spam and social networks for this competition? Do I have that right?

Originally Posted by link8r

If you can't experiment in SEO, you can't go on in SEO.....except you, Google have obviously appointed you as an expert. Wonder how one goes about doing that....

You're not doing yourself any favours whatsoever. You honestly sound like a 10 year old. I actually have no reply for your last outburst there. Sorry to disappoint you but I'm at a loss for words.

* That's my opinion. Too many cowboys out there offering SEO services these days. It's become a commodity. An often abused commodity by people who just don't 'get it'.

[link8r]

Thanks Cormac, I'm actually flattered by having you stalk me.

So I raised a query about AdWords ... Now that means I dont know anything about SEO (even though I've been doing it since 2001). Oh it's because I created a little spam - so did a lot of people.

Nice of you to help setup a competition and then flame the contestants. Very, very professional.

[link8r]

Originally Posted by pinkfluffybunny

Static, asp, or php, the problem is not dynamic, it's the code you are using. Xhtml is a third party standard.

do a tracert on your domain - it doesn't resolve correctly....... ouch - Google no likey

You're sharing an IP with 580 other domains - think any one of them is being a bad boy - those all resolve to the same name, that IP gets blocked by one provider or country and Google will treat your site like theirs.... Googlle doesn't like sending people to sites they may not be able to see.

Thanks again PinkFluffybunny for the constructive posts

The spiders are growing in activity. I'm still expecting it to rush up. I'm posting because well, I have less than 5 days, this is the first SEO that hasn't gone well.

We have a lot of domain names with this hosting company, which used to be Irish but has now been taken over by a UK company. We are trying to move, we have around 350 domains to move (they aren't all on the same IP/Server). But we have high rankings on this from everything for property to accommodation to well a lot of things. All irish located mind.

I have the nasty feeling that this will recover but after the competition ends. I dont know if I can move it and it will get re-indexed in the next 48 hours though, I think I've lost ! Glad to see Dara's entry, AsGealige.com in at number 1 - Geansai Gorm - like most of the contestants he's been a gentleman.

[Rankenstein]

Originally Posted by Blue Flame

Mine isn't. I have the only non-WP / CMS powered entry in the competition that appears on the current top 10.

Maybe if you stopped spamming the indexes, Google would be kind to you? Although at this stage since you call yourself a proper SEO you should know this already? 800 legitimate links is hard to fathom when it's so easy to lookup your backlinks.

And yes, I am questioning your integrity as a SEO. Do you not think it unwise to use spammy and non-contextual link building activities as part of your sites' SEO for a competition? A competition which is being run by Damien Mulley and is being followed by 100's of people?

If it's your intention to earn a reputation as a spammer then you're doing a good job.

Cormac

Hmm, this isn't the ihelpyou forums, and we don't particularly like using these SEO forums as a sparring ground - keep it civil please, Blue Flame.

[link8r]

Sorry Rankstein, I just wanted to query some other SEO's opinions.

[Rankenstein]

That's fine, no probs... it's when you get guys going "you did this" "no, you did that" etc. well, we don't encourage it. Just saying.