IP ranges and SEO

RonHollingsworth · 06-30-2004, 08:32 PM

I have three different sites and they are all on the same IP range:

A is on 66.129.98.177

B is on 66.129.98.166

C is on 66.129.98.166

If I change this so that all three are on different IP ranges will this have any adverse affect whatsoever?

thebassman · 06-30-2004, 08:36 PM

I would think it would be better, wouldn't it? Especially if they all link to each other...?

RonHollingsworth · 06-30-2004, 08:38 PM

They do, but I'm wondering what affect other than the SEO aspects side of it.

Shawn · 06-30-2004, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by RonHollingsworth

They do, but I'm wondering what affect other than the SEO aspects side of it.

From my understanding, crosslinking those 3 sites together will show as backlinks but not *count* as backlinks. But changing them to different IP c-blocks will not be seen as 'crosslinking' in search engines eyes, therefore the links will help you. - This is my understanding of it atleast..not a wozza posting

As far as other benefits of doing it, all that I can see would be as either a dynamic mirror, for load balancing or just the fact of if one server crashes for some reason, you still have the two sites up while the other is down, so atleast you're not out 3 sites.

awall19 · 06-30-2004, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by RonHollingsworth

I have three different sites and they are all on the same IP range:

A is on 66.129.98.177

B is on 66.129.98.166

C is on 66.129.98.166

If I change this so that all three are on different IP ranges will this have any adverse affect whatsoever?

aa.bbb.cc.ddd

all those domain address above are the same IP c block.

if you are to make a huge network you want to register by proxy and host them across many different IP C block addresses. so far I have been too lazy to do this with my sites, but I am told it can help out a decent amount.

I, Brian · 07-01-2004, 01:16 AM

There are known Google algos that filter IP blocks - Hilltop and LocalRank for starters. So it may be recommended to host them on sepearate servers to get the most out of your backlinks.

That said, it's also worth having your sites on multiple servers/datacenters in the event of a major server failure. I experienced that last year, and will no longer host two important sites on the same server.

ferret77 · 07-01-2004, 06:57 AM

I have been looking for host that provide shared hositng on multiple c-class

the cheapest I have found so far is 37 a month for hosting on 6 c-classes

broken up inopt multiple resller accounts

anyone know any others

awall19 · 07-01-2004, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by ferret77

I have been looking for host that provide shared hositng on multiple c-class

the cheapest I have found so far is 37 a month for hosting on 6 c-classes

broken up inopt multiple resller accounts

anyone know any others

you would think there would be lots of demand for something like this. if a person branded themselves as SEO hosting then they could likely do pretty well.

awall19 · 07-01-2004, 07:31 AM

it might be worth it to put up some cheesy sites at free hosted areas too.

I don't remember the URL off hand, but I have seen some PR8 inner pages (not the home page of the subdomain, but inner pages of it) on sites that were hosted free.

I, Brian · 07-01-2004, 11:33 AM

The problem with multi-domain hosting on multiple IP blocks is that you would effectively have to network the servers together - or so my understanding goes - which is well beyond the capacity of most companies to set up, let alone the web software cope with.

However, webhosting is so cheap that buying separate accounts across the board isn't difficult or expensive at all. And better to spread your sites among different companies - that way if 1 host goes bad, you only have one main site that may be compromised, and it's easier to move one site, than many at the same time.

nandini · 07-09-2004, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by ferret77

I have been looking for host that provide shared hositng on multiple c-class

the cheapest I have found so far is 37 a month for hosting on 6 c-classes

broken up inopt multiple resller accounts

anyone know any others

My host provider gives me linux 20 mb/ 15$ per month for 6 sites. All IP addresses will be unique, C Class IP address.

I, Brian · 07-10-2004, 02:09 AM

Maybe I've been asking the wrong hosts.

ferret77 · 07-10-2004, 10:00 AM

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multiple IP blocks is that you would effectively have to network the servers together

why? you can just use multiple contol panels

Johan007 · 07-10-2004, 01:21 PM

The answer is yes but the question should be is it worth it for just 2 links?

disgust · 07-10-2004, 01:40 PM

there are definite instances where it isn't needed.

prime example? devshed's network.

I, Brian · 07-10-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ferret77

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multiple IP blocks is that you would effectively have to network the servers together

why? you can just use multiple contol panels

Doesn't every server usually have it's own separate software installation, though?

ferret77 · 07-10-2004, 06:18 PM

most *nix hosting comes wiht cpanel or whm

I'm not sure what you would need networked

glengara · 07-11-2004, 03:13 AM

I've my doubts on the whole C class IP thing, granted Hilltop/LocalRank mention it for determining "affiliation", but the primary factor is the pages have first to be returned for a particular search query.

In the wider context, I also doubt that different IP classes would save a linkage pattern that's pinged for resembling a "links scheme designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank".

I, Brian · 07-11-2004, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by ferret77

most *nix hosting comes wiht cpanel or whm

I'm not sure what you would need networked

Yes, but in the way in that a standalone PC has an OS installed - but this software isn't networked across multiple machines. Same with servers - you would have to have the servers networked under a single installation of WHM - or equivalent - to be able to manage webspace on different spaces. so far as I know, this is not standard practice within the webhosting industry.

I, Brian · 07-11-2004, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by glengara

I've my doubts on the whole C class IP thing, granted Hilltop/LocalRank mention it for determining "affiliation", but the primary factor is the pages have first to be returned for a particular search query.

In the wider context, I also doubt that different IP classes would save a linkage pattern that's pinged for resembling a "links scheme designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank".

SEO's stuffing a single server with interlinking sites is an old old technique. Most "natural" linkage will rarely cross-link the same IP, and certainly not in number. Therefore such a scheme is a good idea for emphasising the value of "natural" linking, and help prevent SEO's from simply buying a cheap dedicated box and stuffing lots of intrinsically worthless domains on it.