Nagging Microsoft PR Question:

UKZJ007 · 07-12-2004, 06:19 AM

Hey Guys:

Heres a question thats been bugging me for sometime.

High PR vs Low PR:

Let me make this easy to understand by giving you an example.

If you had a single link from the homepage of microsoft.com for example, putting aside all traffic benefits would that have more SEO benefits than for example 1000 PR 5 homepage links?

Does google favour MS, or does MS's super high PR and relevancy mean that with just one link you can easily get top spot for something?

awall19 · 07-12-2004, 09:48 AM

it really depends on a ton of variables

one powerful link can go a long way, but I think the problem with that idea is that often people get one powerful link and are too lazy to augment it with many easy and cheap links...which is low hanging fruit and you should do that too.

nandini · 07-12-2004, 10:46 AM

This is the point I am really saying all along... Don`t forget the basics... if you exchange links from a page which is at PR4 today, might be PR5 or PR6. i exchanged a link from a place when its PR was 2. After this PR update , the page my link is, having a whooping PR of 7.

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Originally Posted by awall19

one powerful link can go a long way, but I think the problem with that idea is that often people get one powerful link and are too lazy to augment it with many easy and cheap links...which is low hanging fruit and you should do that too.

I believe in it too..

UKZJ007 · 07-12-2004, 11:16 AM

Its a bit like gambling only that this requires a ton of patience and the results are not immediate.

I thought that having 1 link from a super high PR site really has a tremendous effect compared to small link gathering. In your analogy a link like that is sure "sweet fruit" - But is it the amount of fruits, which probably together, contain more sweeteness that matters?

hurricane_sh · 07-12-2004, 12:12 PM

I don't care about PR so much, but it's still quite difficult to find link partners, I traded links with some PR 3/4 with my PR 5 page, give some directory links when they wrote a polite email, just feel sorry to refuse :-(

Shawn · 07-12-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by pc-clever

If you had a single link from the homepage of microsoft.com for example, putting aside all traffic benefits would that have more SEO benefits than for example 1000 PR 5 homepage links?

Just my opinion on this, but I think a link from any gigantic authority site such as msn, yahoo, google etc would be far more beneficial than 1000 small links. Think about it this way. There are what 4 billion websites out there? Probably 1/4 of those have a pr 3-5 (just guessing). So would you rather have 1000 links of those 1 billion sites from those small "nobody" sites as opposed to a master link from a pr 10 msn.com?

Not to mention the other pr (public relations) benefit of link from msn.com

Also as for the small links from 1000 small sites, I guarantee you if you have a link from msn, you'll get more people wanting to link to you without even asking

nandini · 07-12-2004, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shawn Steele

Just my opinion on this, but I think a link from any gigantic authority site such as msn, yahoo, google etc would be far more beneficial than 1000 small links. Think about it this way. There are what 4 billion websites out there? Probably 1/4 of those have a pr 3-5 (just guessing). So would you rather have 1000 links of those 1 billion sites from those small "nobody" sites as opposed to a master link from a pr 10 msn.com?

Not to mention the other pr (public relations) benefit of link from msn.com

Also as for the small links from 1000 small sites, I guarantee you if you have a link from msn, you'll get more people wanting to link to you without even asking

Good! thought.... But if you ask me its a bit unrealistic. In my previous company we have developed a regional site for Microsoft.com . The whole section was done by us starting from designing, coding and QA. No link was given to us, we never asked also..

So in my opinion wishful thinking is very good, getting a link from Microsoft, Adobe, yahoo.. but thats all, its wishful thinking.
In the end all you want is good rankings, you don`t care if your PR is 8 and your competitior having PR5 doing a better job than you.
But sometimes you just go behind PR, for eg. I am building a web directory and I want a high PR to get my directory going...
See my signature link..

awall19 · 07-12-2004, 06:17 PM

I would rather have links from thousands of sites...that way if my relationship with M$N fell down the tubes I would still be ok.

incidently everyone using internet explorer and concerned with their aweful integration of browser into the operating system should consider using a better browser

download FireFox now
http://www.mozilla.org/products/firefox/

oops, guess microsoft won't soon be linking into my sites

nandini · 07-12-2004, 06:25 PM

Yeah That is also a valid point, relying on or two pages, is not a long term planning. I would also invest my money on no. of links rather than one hefty link from a single page....

It will also help in high rankings...

UKZJ007 · 07-13-2004, 05:09 AM

Im not so sure - I should have turned this thing into a Poll - Too late now , this post is going to sink down the rabbit holes like every other post!

UKZJ007 · 07-13-2004, 05:09 AM

On a more serious note - if you have a link from a very important site im sure more links would come as a result without people asking as some just mentioned above.

awall19 · 07-13-2004, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by pc-clever

On a more serious note - if you have a link from a very important site im sure more links would come as a result without people asking as some just mentioned above.

syndication does work wonders if you have a story or site worth syndicating. trying my luck with one idea soon.

<ventures off to write a press release...>