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Old 02-12-2009, 07:18 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I went to a website that did generate for me an XML site map which I downloaded and saved in my site and uploaded to the server, is that the only thing to do? does it need to be linked somehow with my home page so that the robot will crawl ? I have already an html site map which is for users only does it need to be linked to it as well?
I also submitted to google my index.xml file, not sure of the result as it takes hours.
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Old 02-12-2009, 08:36 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Go into your google webmaster tools and submit your site map there.
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Go into your google webmaster tools and submit your site map there.
yeah I recommend this practice , for your site to appear on Google database...
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Since you already submitted your sitemap, you don't have to do anything now. Just go back to your webmaster tools and click on sitemap(it should be "1") and see the results.
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Its enough to add a sitemap , search engine crawlers will crawl it themselves and you don't need to bother about that much . Only thing that you can do is to update it time to time
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right now, just wait till search engine crawl your site. but i will tell you, it will take a long time for the bots to index you site.

for me, sitemap submission is a waste of time. even if you don't submit you site, a proper link building and promotions can help your site get crawled in just an overnight. all you have to do is social bookmarked your site and do forum postings. if you have done it correctly, there's a big possibility that your site will get indexed in just a day or two.
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Site maps - waste of time - if your site can't be spidered in the first place, it won't have a chance of good placement. build the site so all pages can be spidered.

Google sends out different spiders to spider a site - (example one for a news feed).

watch your log files - make sure it's being spidered. Sitemaps are just a waste of time.
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Sitemaps are just a waste of time.

For me sitemaps are important and very useful and it provide some benefits like:
  • Better visibility by search engines - using sitemaps will help search engine bots to index your pages better. Can easily inform search engines about the changes/updates you did in your site
  • Guide for your visitors for easier navigation - your visitors can easily find what they are looking for by looking at your site and it can provide them the exact location of the web page where the information is.
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Always upload site map in the root directory of site. this is very helpful to search engine crawler and do one thing upload a robots.txt file which have sitemap link on it.
Wait for minimum 2 days..for better result.
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Ok kiddies - SEO 101

Your homepage serves one purpose - to get your site properly indexed.
You want a pretty landing site - build another site - don't register it - in fact put a no follow no index in it.

Don't use a cms based on a third party standard like xhtml (at least not until the engines can spider it) - sorry open source bloggers and cms users.

Watch the logs so you can detect problems and fix them.

Never submitted a site map - never will - design the site so it can be spidered - a site map won't get you placed if it can't be spidered correctly.


Example of watching what the spiders are doing:


See those "not clicked" - I no why, not a problem - they were spidered from another link.


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pinkfluffybunny, how do you get that display to show the % of spidering for each link?

In any case, submit sitemap to google webmaster tools. You dont have to link to the sitemap from anywhere else - it is not for human consumption.
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pinkfluffybunny, how do you get that display to show the % of spidering for each link?

In any case, submit sitemap to google webmaster tools. You dont have to link to the sitemap from anywhere else - it is not for human consumption.

one of the log readers i use (SurfStats) shows it, it also displays the dates, times and pages spidered and by which engine. and tons of other useful stuff. Then I use webtrends for the stuff it doesn't.


What the hell good is a sitemap if the pages can't be spidered? No good. And if it can be spidered, why the hell do you submit one?

Oh well if you got the time to play and update the damn thing all the time have fun. Never done a site map, never submitted a site, never had a site that took Google over a week to find with no links to it. Hell, I've had sites listed at the top on an ip before I even assigned a domain name to it.
If your site isn't indexed good by now, a sitemap just ain't gonna do it - you're washing the windows while there's transmission fluid pouring onto the driveway.

They may be needed if yo're using a navagation system that the spiders can't read - but why would you do that?
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