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Old 12-12-2004, 04:22 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Old 12-12-2004, 05:05 PM   #22 (permalink)
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I am really happy with the program even though I am long and lanky and not as FAT as others using it. I am getting 10+ extra links a day. I know that isn't heaps but for my major keywords I am jumping daily arround 5 pages closer to position 1, out of no where. At this rate any day I will be number 1 for some of the keywords. *TOUCH WOOD*

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Old 12-12-2004, 05:29 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah, I've gotten over 10k backlinks from it now... top 10 for all my keywords.
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Old 12-12-2004, 06:41 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Good luck to you all on this. I think I will wait a year, or so, before considering it. While I can see some click value being involved, I'm not convinced any PR is being passed as the links change with each page load. For me, I would rather get links only from on-topic sites naturally for the long haul.
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Old 12-12-2004, 07:31 PM   #25 (permalink)
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Good luck to you all on this. I think I will wait a year, or so, before considering it. While I can see some click value being involved, I'm not convinced any PR is being passed as the links change with each page load. For me, I would rather get links only from on-topic sites naturally for the long haul.
watch the search results....obviously something is passing
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Yes but with so many different factors being mixed in (as with any page) it is not obvious what is being passed and where 'what' is coming from.

To suggest otherwise would be the along the lines of stating my child wets the bed only when I use white sheets. I know this to be true as he/she has wet the bed the last 3 times I used white sheets.
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Old 12-12-2004, 08:22 PM   #27 (permalink)
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My site has jumped from no where to somewhere. For me that has value
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You mean were not in Google's index and now (due to only to the promotions) you are? The statement 'as is' is very hollow.

Can you tell me the anchor text you used (if any) and the search term (you are targetting) along with the URL?
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:09 PM   #29 (permalink)
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Yes but with so many different factors being mixed in (as with any page) it is not obvious what is being passed and where 'what' is coming from.
have you talked with the guy who set up that network? do you know that he got to the top dozen results for "eBay" using only that network?

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To suggest otherwise would be the along the lines of stating my child wets the bed only when I use white sheets. I know this to be true as he/she has wet the bed the last 3 times I used white sheets.
perhaps your child was only wetting the bed when you laid next to him?

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You mean were not in Google's index and now (due to only to the promotions) you are? The statement 'as is' is very hollow.
as are most of yours.

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Can you tell me the anchor text you used (if any) and the search term (you are targetting) along with the URL?
some people may not want to give specifics. not everything in the world needs to be proved...I know stuff I would not tell you, as I am sure others do too.
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Old 12-12-2004, 09:26 PM   #30 (permalink)
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I'll give specifics... I'm targetting 4 terms right now. Before I started using the co-op network, I had maybe 2k backlinks with various anchor text, mostly coming from sig links. My rankings for the keywords were, at best, barely in the top 100. They sat like that for several months. I then joined the ad network, and the next update, my BL's more than doubled to over 5k, then the past backlink update, by BL's are over 11.4k (and that's just in Google... Yahoo and MSN are showing a LOT more). The keywords that I've been targetting are photography forum, photography forums, digital photography forum and digital photography forums, all of which I rank in the top 10 for right now, and slowly climbing. I fully believe in the co-op network. It's not obtrusive to any of my visitors, and it brings me traffic, as well as BL's which help in the serps.
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Old 12-12-2004, 10:44 PM   #31 (permalink)
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No of course not but it does to me if I'm possibly betting my business on it.


Anyway, I did try to be polite while playing devils advocate (hence my best of luck statement) but I guess certain types have made up their minds and don't want any facts to muddy the waters.

I for one will not place my eggs in any basket that could contain holes and do more harm than good in the long run.
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Old 12-13-2004, 03:27 AM   #32 (permalink)
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You mean were not in Google's index and now (due to only to the promotions) you are? The statement 'as is' is very hollow.
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I didn't have the exact stats in front of me at the time of posting so it was hollow. As awall said I would prefer not to go in to the specifics, but I can say it sure SEEMS to be that the co-op is doing something very positive.

Time will tell.
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Old 12-13-2004, 05:32 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Thebassman, do you know how to get 5 different links, instead of five the same displaying at the bottom of your site, i would have posted the question on the other forum but i cant post yet.
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Old 12-13-2004, 06:15 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Like :
$ad_network[0];
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$ad_network[3];
$ad_network[4];

I think - without the code in front of me. Hope it helps mate!
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:11 AM   #35 (permalink)
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No of course not but it does to me if I'm possibly betting my business on it.

Anyway, I did try to be polite while playing devils advocate (hence my best of luck statement) but I guess certain types have made up their minds and don't want any facts to muddy the waters.

I for one will not place my eggs in any basket that could contain holes and do more harm than good in the long run.
Your posts indicate this concept that your pool of knowledge is unflawed and that at first glance everyone else is typing bull****.

Businesses that do not take risks will eventually fail. Rememeber that some of us actually *do* seo for a living and may have access to a ton more info than you do. I have friends who actually crawl large portions of the web to do link analysis...when they tell me their research results I generally believe them to be at least somewhat accurate.

most people in seo do not talk in absolutes since stuff can and does change. most everything is somewhere in the middle...its not black and white.

currently the ad network is exceptionally powerful. you don't get to page 1 of google for ebay with on the page content. I am not saying that I do not think that Google will find a way to lessen the power of the ad network. they may but currently it is powerful.
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Old 12-13-2004, 07:12 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Yeah it does help, i overlooked just as you mentioned above. BTW do you know by any change what a high weight is.

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intially I had my doubts about ads showing up on the network

it seemed like some people ads showed up everytime but mine never did

so I wrote a script that ran the ads about 5000 times and printed the html then analized it

and my ads showed up a bunch of times then, although there are really heavy people who show up a lot , my ads with 12,000 weight showed up about 28 times .
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So overall are u happy with the coop network cause thebassman seems to be really happy about it.
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um yeah

I had a site I added to it go up, but I also built thousands of other links for it

so its a combination of the 2 I think

but it did rise a bunch faster once added to coop network

or it least it seems that way

maybe its just coincidence
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Well i have just added some of my links im awaiting approval. Lets see what it can do. Do you know in anyway how to increase the weight factor.
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