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Old 12-15-2004, 02:36 AM   #61 (permalink)
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Lol thanks , curious to hear what he has to say.
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Old 12-15-2004, 08:00 AM   #62 (permalink)
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However, should you think of something constructive and meaningful to say I'd be happy to debate maturely with you over the topic.
what you say is probably not the problem so much as how you say it... it is the authority behind the statements coupled with the "prove it to me" posts that wear people thin.

I should not lower myself to your level though and am rather disappointed in myself for doing so.

In reality, the sky is *always* falling because algorithms and editors consistantly evolve and improve as reverse engineering techniques improve. there is no defining right answer in SEO. its an industry you must evolve with. it is important to think ahead, but the network works well now. it may or may not in the future.

I would not recomend entirely relying on any single network or network effect for the bulk of my advertising though.
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Old 12-15-2004, 12:19 PM   #63 (permalink)
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Having read the thread, I thought I'd better go see what the fuss was about ;-)

Well it's definitely a "links scheme" IMO, but whether it'll be picked up per se I couldn't say.

Would suggest members should otherwise be squeaky clean as far as having other links schemes in play, though.

Dare you recommend it in your book, Awall19 ;-)
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Old 12-15-2004, 04:13 PM   #64 (permalink)
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I should not lower myself to your level though and am rather disappointed in myself for doing so.
Repeat: "However, should you think of something constructive and meaningful to say I'd be happy to debate maturely with you over the topic."
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:33 PM   #65 (permalink)
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I emailed my rep at Google. He's in a different department than natural search, but he might be able to shed some light on it.
Are you kidding? Where do you people come from?

What if it's not ok, wouldn't it be better to let them find out on their own rather then tattle tale?

Dave hawly everywhere I see you are talking trash and not getting along

can't you just relax

and its hard not to get along with awall

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Old 12-15-2004, 05:41 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Has anyone else gotten a significant amount of visitors from the coop ad network? I've found ive gotten quite a few, actually (more than backlinks!!!)
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:42 PM   #67 (permalink)
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I have gotten a bunch
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:48 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Your opinion.

As I have said to awall, I'm not likely to be put off pointing out possible downsides just because your sort doesn't want to hear it. They are likely a silent majority that will read and then investigate before jumping into a link swapping scheme.

I bet there are thousands that wish they had investigated schemes they engaged in pre Florida.

Whether you like to admit or not, there are thousands and thousands of schemes out there that have done more harm than good. I'm not saying this is one, but it always pays to investigate before jumping into a link swapping scheme.

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Old 12-15-2004, 05:55 PM   #69 (permalink)
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Are you kidding? Where do you people come from?
I come from Chicago.


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What if it's not ok, wouldn't it be better to let them find out on their own rather then tattle tale?
Lol, if it's not ok, then people should know now rather than later. And trust me, there isnt much they don't know about anyway.
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Old 12-15-2004, 05:58 PM   #70 (permalink)
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then people should know now rather than later
Something yourself (ferret) and awall should listen to and stop trying to gag those that speak out.
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I bet there are thousands that wish they had investigated schemes they engaged in pre Florida.
Here you go with that florida stuff,

Dave please explain to me excatly what got sites penalized or dropped or whatever. I'm still curious
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:00 PM   #72 (permalink)
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I'm sure google already knows I think it just my street side that is repulsed by anything related to tell authorites anything

Chicago, I hate that city. I have had nothing but bad luck there.

Do you ask you google rep about trading links also , how about britecorp link program did you clear that with them too?
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:06 PM   #73 (permalink)
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Hawly I'm not trying to gag anything

I just recall arguing with you about some stuff, which is pretty common I'm not really much of people person,

but I also remember you arguing a lot with other people
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:06 PM   #74 (permalink)
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I suggest you read about Florida on the WWW. There is lot's of info out there, most is hear-say etc but there is some interesting stuff in the documented Search King case.


Anyway, if nothing else, at least try to read and comprehend the rest of my post rather than cherry pick.

Also, why not stop all the personal attacks, it's making you look very much like you have something to loose by investigating this new scheme.
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Yes I do, although I would rather call it debate with other people. I make no apologies for that. A SEO forum where all agree and those that don't are gagged is no good IMO.
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I'm sure google already knows I think it just my street side that is repulsed by anything related to tell authorites anything

Chicago, I hate that city. I have had nothing but bad luck there.

Do you ask you google rep about trading links also , how about britecorp link program did you clear that with them too?

From your posts here, it's pretty obvious you believe in spamming the engines and breaking to rules to get better rankings. And no I didnt ask anything about those. Listen man I'm not trying to rain on your parade here, my intentions are to HELP webmasters, not hurt them. I never said it was a bad network, in fact it sounds like an awesome idea. But there a few flaws in it that raise a lot of flags....that's all. I'd even be interested in participating in it, but rest assured it won't be before I check it out. Would you rather have a manual penalty on your site or find out in advance that it's a possibility. Not for nothing, but you don't seem to be in this for the long run.
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Shawn, despite me always talking rubbish and arguing with everyone, I agree with what you are attempting to find out and regardless of the outcome it can only be for the good.
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Old 12-15-2004, 06:26 PM   #78 (permalink)
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From your posts here, it's pretty obvious you believe in spamming the engines and breaking to rules to get better rankings.
Thank you, didn't you used to have site stripper phone book?

Are you that same person?
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Shawn, would be interested to hear the results of your findings. Please do tell when they come in!

Thanks for your efforts mate!

Cheers!

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How does that justify you being a SE spammer?
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