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Old 11-21-2004, 08:09 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Asp or php

For SEO and search engine spider compatibility, which coding is better asp or php and why??
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it shouldn't matter at all

both just output html to the viewer (spider or person)
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Old 11-22-2004, 03:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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yep its the same thing as far as SE.

Are you thinking of learning one?
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I would stick with Php. The response time definitely is a point to consider when doing SEO. Most Php sites are fast. Some ASP sites are also fast, but many are slow. This is not just the matter of Asp itself, but of the Microsoft attitude "lets they buy a new comp if they cannot handle this load", the fact that ASP is deployed on the Win systems and frequently uses the terrible Microsoft databases.
Another problem is mod-rewrite, it is possible to be implemented on the Microsoft IIS server, but comparing to Apache, much less convenient.

Yes, I agree I am biased against M$crosoft.
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Old 11-22-2004, 09:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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mod re-write:
I agree about the mod re-write implementation however I think its only PHP sites that tent to have session id in the url and that is the fault of those dodgy forums and NOT the programming language.

Speed:
PHP is faster but speed really is NOT an issue anymore! My ASP is programming will be faster than “inline” coding using PHP. If you don’t program inline using PHP then ok you may win… but really speed its not that much of an issue.

The advantage of ASP:
Is that uses simple to use Visual Basic (learnt in most schools!) and also you can connect using a simple Access db if your happy doing a medium sized site. If you’re a large web company you will need a more professional db.

Disadvantage of ASP:
www.Phpbb.com is really good and better than the ASP equivalent.
ASP.net is out and ASP is looking old and unsupported by Microsoft.
PHP hosting is often cheaper
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ASP and PHP are different approaches to building dynamic Web sites that can incorporate database interactivity and other application server uses into your Web site.

ASP stands for Active Server Pages and PHP formerly stood for Personal Home Pages and is now known as PHP Hypertext Preprocessor.
  • Microsoft products are all over the globe and it makes their site compatible with a significant number of other big businesses sites. This makes business to business transactions easier because everyone involved is running the same platforms and applications.
  • Large companies already have their computers running Microsoft products and their employees are trained in the Microsoft program environment. This keeps training investments down to a minimum and keeps companies from investing in new equipment and software. They get to milk their current Microsoft product assets for all that they are worth.
  • If a large company wants to take over another (an acquisition or merger) or is bought out themselves, the ability to easily integrate systems (databases, document processing, spread sheet and accounting applications) is invaluable and can make a company appear to be a much more attractive prospect to potential benefactors. Therefore keeping your business dressed up in MS clothing can have a certain appeal.
There are many small and medium business that choose to run ASP as well. Most of these already were using NT, Excel and Access. Using IIS (Internet Information Server) to access their spreadsheet, database and word-processor applications to incorporate data into Web content is an easy transition.

Trying to incorporate existing Microsoft application data into a PHP run Web site would require starting from scratch with a great deal of headaches including purchasing new programs. Therefore some small and medium sized businesses that already are hooked on Microsoft products may opt for ASP as well.

However PHP is the developers tool that has gained the most respect amongst Web gurus and aficionados. Most describe it as an easy to use and feature packed program that allows you to create dynamic and database driven Web sites effortlessly. It is a free program that is open source so it can be modified to fit developers needs. Most developers who like Linux and mySQL are also fans of PHP.

Independent Web developers as well as a growing number of small and medium sized businesses love PHP. They have jumped onboard the PHP bandwagon and love every trail they blaze. What are the secrets behind the rapid growth of PHP and what are the advantages to using this highly regarded program?
  • It's easy to learn and the available support for it is through the roof. The Web has always been about individuals banding together to create resources for one another. PHP is loved by the Web community and you will find and abundance of tutorials, tools, Web sites and other online support ready and available to guide you from your Web sites conception to it's launch.
  • More and more host servers are supporting PHP; chances are you can find a good free or cheap host for your site that will allow you to run a dynamic PHP site.
  • ASP is supported by Microsoft servers only (unless you use a 3rd party utility that facilitates support); however, PHP is supported by many different "html" servers.
Which one you choose is based on many variables but none more important than preference. When people visit your site they won't say, "Man, this page was generated by ASP; that sucks!" What they will do is evaluate the site's usefulness based on design and content. Therefore as long as your site follows the rules of good design and also provides the content that the client was looking for any of these dynamic content tools will work just fine, so take your pick.

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Old 11-22-2004, 10:25 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Good post! did you just type all that or cute and paste?

I use both PHP and ASP but tend to do the complex sites in ASP and simple sites that only require server side includes and a few variables and conditions in PHP. I dont know why I do this I think its down to speed of coding time.

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I find this Oracle's comparison of ASP and PHP very useful.
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