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Old 11-28-2004, 06:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Preparing for MSN Search

Its become apparent that changes to site structure are more important than ever when it comes to dealing with MSN Search.

Problems I have identified with MSN during this time (11th Nov 2004)

1) MSN Search does not crawl as deep as Google. Use the "site:www.domain.com to find out how much less pages MSN has than Google.

Solution: Shallow structure or Sitemap

2) Inclusion of URL’s with Query String parameter. MSN claim to allow up to 5 parameters. Most people using Query strings will have no more than one or two. But the real problem I find is that if the Query String URL page is not linked from a NON-Query-String page (sometimes called static page) then there seems to be a high chance of not getting indexed for that page!

Again you may want to compare G with MSN by using site: but apply a filter "site:www.domain.co.uk basepage.asp"

Solution: Site map on a static page

3) Query String URL’s are ranked less well. This is just a theory based on my observations. It’s a real mistake by Microsoft especially because ASP does not have a reliable URL mod rewrite and plays into the hands of PHP.

Solution: I would recommend NOT using URL mod rewrite unless your site is new otherwise you will loose a lot inbound link PR. I would wait and see.
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Old 11-28-2004, 03:14 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I've noticed the shallow crawling and been hoping it would get better. If MSN's current crawling pattern doesn't change I'm screwed. It's not even getting close to my good stuff.
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Old 11-28-2004, 08:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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keep in mind that they are still new and stuff will change over time.
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Yes, totally agree. I don't think it's a good idea to cater to a BETA version of MSN.
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Quite true, especially since they ARE going to tweak it a lot more. I have just optimized for google and am doing okay in the msn beta. Time will tell though.
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Yes I agree but if the solutions to do a site map of all the Query String URL's it only takes a few moments to pull them from a database. Just like wearing 2 condoms at the same time its a quick fix for being ultra safe.
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Old 11-29-2004, 09:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I can't wait for it to go live.. my sites are ranked well now...
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Talking 2 condoms...

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Yes I agree but if the solutions to do a site map of all the Query String URL's it only takes a few moments to pull them from a database. Just like wearing 2 condoms at the same time its a quick fix for being ultra safe.

OMG two condoms LOL

Ok, I agree with you about being careful.

My sites are ranking quite well two in the beta version, I hope they don't tweak anything XD
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I have my 2 condoms on all ready and waiting. Hurry up Bill, this is getting uncomfortable
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Just like wearing 2 condoms at the same time its a quick fix for being ultra safe.
Okay, I'm missing out on life experience here.
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