Recommend a good doorway page generator

[articlebot]

William,

At $39.99 per month (special offer right now for "TE" or "MW" users), we can't really go much lower...

Sincerely,
Don Harrold
thebot@articlebot.com

[G10]

Thanks for asking me to join your affiliate program dude.

I take it that you are going to give me a trial then so that I can promote this baby? - Otherwise, I can't really see myself joining and paying 'to show you how it's done' as you said.

I do not profess to know anywhere near as much about articlebot as you guys. In the same token, I do not know anywhere near as much as Aaron does about optimisation.

That in mind, the original question was about finding a good 'doorway page generator'. Aaron listed your product.

Granted, it may be a good product for schools etc but this thread is about doorway page generators and usually, companies would not jump into a thread like this and promote their product.

[Shawn]

My head hurts after *trying* to read the homepage sales copy at www.articlebot.com. I would be interested in a demo version, or the real thing if I could see hard and cold facts of what the software does.

Like for instance..

Can I cut and paste html code and have it return the modified content with the html code intact? Or does it need to be raw text?

Does it basically rearrange the content of the article and then use a thesuarus type function to replace words that find a match in the thesaurus?

[articlebot]

G10,

1) If we gave a "free trial" to every person who said they'd "market"
Article Bot, we'd be out of business. If you need what it does, you
should pay for it. If not, then don't.

2) I did not come here to promote Article Bot. There were people who were
obviously misinformed about Article Bot. I stated the facts about Article Bot.

Sincerely,
Don Harrold
thebot@articlebot.com

Originally Posted by G10

Thanks for asking me to join your affiliate program dude.

I take it that you are going to give me a trial then so that I can promote this baby? - Otherwise, I can't really see myself joining and paying 'to show you how it's done' as you said.

I do not profess to know anywhere near as much about articlebot as you guys. In the same token, I do not know anywhere near as much as Aaron does about optimisation.

That in mind, the original question was about finding a good 'doorway page generator'. Aaron listed your product.

Granted, it may be a good product for schools etc but this thread is about doorway page generators and usually, companies would not jump into a thread like this and promote their product.

[articlebot]

Shawn,

1) Article Bot manipulates ANY text. HTML, "raw text", whatever you want. The output maintains the integrity of your input, too. Article Bot works WONDERFULLY with HTML.

2) Article Bot uses many patent-pending process to manipulate text. Some of involves "find and replace", some involves more complex algorithms.

There is nothing like Article Bot. My "head hurts" all the time trying to figure out what to do with Article Bot. It's the first tool I've used that there really is no limit to what it can do.


Sincerely,
Don Harrold
thebot@articlebot.com

Originally Posted by Shawn Steele

My head hurts after *trying* to read the homepage sales copy at www.articlebot.com. I would be interested in a demo version, or the real thing if I could see hard and cold facts of what the software does.

Like for instance..

Can I cut and paste html code and have it return the modified content with the html code intact? Or does it need to be raw text?

Does it basically rearrange the content of the article and then use a thesuarus type function to replace words that find a match in the thesaurus?

[G10]

I completely agree with you that you would be out of pocket if everybody said 'give us a free trial to see what it does then'.

You asked me to sign up to it, I didn't offer.

Originally Posted by articlebot

Hey, join our affiliate program and show us how it's done!

Sincerely,
Don Harrold

No probs Don, I won't then.

One thing I would suggest that may help you with your marketing would be to give people a free trial period (1 week or so) to give it a go.

If I want to purchase WEBCEO - (Good program by the way) or most other packages similar, the company will give it's (potential) customers a free trial for them to get used to using it and after that, the trial runs out and one has to pay.

Would you buy something from a salesman without even testing the product first?

You guys have spent so much money on this that adding a trial period into it won't break the bank and I can tell you for one that anyone that has the confidence to offer their product on a trial period usually gets a lot more sales.

There's a sales strategy that works for you.

[imaginemn]

I would agree with G10. If you really want to market your product asking the person or marketing firm to sign up and tell us how to market is not the way to go. I can see why you don't want to offer a free trail, 1 time users could potentially abuse it. But not having a try before you buy can hurt a product more than it can help it. Look at all the major software out there. You can use but you cannot save the results.

A person like me starts to think why won't they offer a trail? Is the output that terrible? Will I not be happy with the results? Is it a "get rich" scam? If it were a 1 time fee that would be different but a monthly subscription, you are asking a lot from a potetial buyer for an unknown. You don't have to answer any of these question because they are just thoughts that would go through my mind if I was a first time buyer or had just come accross your site for the first time.

Spending thousands of dollars on the perfect product will not do you any good if you do not promote the product correctly. My advise to you is to hire a marketing person or firm to help you with this or at least give G10 a free trail to give you some marketing and/or promotional advice. His time and expertise is valuable and for him to just offer a chance to help should be worth much MORE than $39.99.

imaginemn

[articlebot]

G10,

This "free trial" issue of yours is a "non issue" to me. We offer a full "no questions asked" refund.

Here's a list of things I've bought with out getting a "free trial":

The last meal I ate in a restaurant. - $25
The seeds I planted in my garden. - $50
The Sony Aibo I bought my kids. - $650

We *could* do a lot of things. What we do offer is the world's most unique content-generating and manipulating software. And, uh, at $39.99 for a month, it's insanely inexepensive.

Finally, although I appreciate the "sales" advice, you need to know that I have been the CEO of a company that has done "seven figures" a year for the last six years - all from internet "information" sales. Now, that doesn't make me a genius, but I must say the model we use has worked pretty good. We've tried the "get it free and pay later" model, and we find that when "price" is the main issue, the quality of the customer is pretty low.

Sincerely,
Don Harrold
thebot@articlebot.com

Originally Posted by G10

I completely agree with you that you would be out of pocket if everybody said 'give us a free trial to see what it does then'.

You asked me to sign up to it, I didn't offer.



No probs Don, I won't then.

One thing I would suggest that may help you with your marketing would be to give people a free trial period (1 week or so) to give it a go.

If I want to purchase WEBCEO - (Good program by the way) or most other packages similar, the company will give it's (potential) customers a free trial for them to get used to using it and after that, the trial runs out and one has to pay.

Would you buy something from a salesman without even testing the product first?

You guys have spent so much money on this that adding a trial period into it won't break the bank and I can tell you for one that anyone that has the confidence to offer their product on a trial period usually gets a lot more sales.

There's a sales strategy that works for you.

[articlebot]

Originally Posted by imaginemn

My advise to you is to hire a marketing person or firm to help you with this or at least give G10 a free trail to give you some marketing and/or promotional advice. His time and expertise is valuable and for him to just offer a chance to help should be worth much MORE than $39.99.

imaginemn

Tell you what: If G10 gives me a "free trial" of his services, I'll consider purchasing later.

Sound cool?

Sincerely,
Don Harrold
thebot@articlebot.com

[G10]

I am not trying to get a freebie from you Don.

I appreaciate the fact you are offering a money back garuntee.

I am probably not the best person to offer this to anyway. What I would say though is that there are certain influential people on forums / newsgroups etc and by offering a trial to them, other forum members plus other forums get to hear about it and your product suddenly begins to sell and spread like wildefire. Am I wrong?

I am sure I don't understand marketing anywhere as good as you or imaginemn but it seems by what you are saying that you don't have anything like that in place.

To me, that is a common basic marketing strategy that works and wins but then you will know this better than I as I have not been the CEO of a seven figure company.

I am not after the trial but offer it to someone on a forum who is influential and you will see a lot of your marketing will be done for you.

I am actually trying to help you by typing the above dude.

I spent years with IBM UK division and know only too well how corporates get more detatched from their customers the bigger they get.

Word of mouth is worth more than any advert campaign.

[awall19]

I think that there were three downloads associated with ArticleBot and a programming friend of mine said it took him a bit to get but was good after he tried it for a while.

the nice thing about charging a fee is that it removes the "sorta interested" crowd. and thus
-you do not waste tons of time servicing people who would have never bought
-you do not have lots of feedback from "sorta interested" people who would not be inclined to give it good reviews anyway.

sure it may take longer to spread if people have to pay for it first, but one month or a few weeks free may not be a legitimate business model for his particular software. it is certainly not for the AOL crowd, and if you are not sure if you are interested or what you would do with it then you probably are not a good prospective client.

[G10]

Aaron, I am not saying that everyone should get a free trial but only a specific few as this would be good for promotions.

Maybe one day I may give it a go, you never know.

A very good way of promoting this product would be to offer it to someone here (you or JS) to try. Offer it to someone on WebProWorld etc and then it would spread very quickly.

One month to someone here and one month to someone there. You get the idea. - Cheaper than most forms of advertising no?

I agree, I am probably not a good prospective client, I am just suggesting that they shouldn't be so against the idea

[imaginemn]

Originally Posted by awall19

the nice thing about charging a fee is that it removes the "sorta interested" crowd. and thus
-you do not waste tons of time servicing people who would have never bought
-you do not have lots of feedback from "sorta interested" people who would not be inclined to give it good reviews anyway.

sure it may take longer to spread if people have to pay for it first, but one month or a few weeks free may not be a legitimate business model for his particular software. it is certainly not for the AOL crowd, and if you are not sure if you are interested or what you would do with it then you probably are not a good prospective client.

I can respect any business not wanting to do a "free" version or "free trail". No one is in the business to give the store out for nothing. If I understand correctly based on the posts here this is a fairly new product. I am assuming less than a year old. A short trail that only generates "partial" information or "on screen" only data would make more sense. But as I said I am not trying to convince AB to give a free trail to everyone. There are MANY ways to offer a free trail. Make companies offer a free trail only if a person registers for a free trail. If they feel they are genuinely interested they give them a free trail, if they don't then don't. Not only will this eliminate those "sorta interested" people but you are building a mailing list to cross promote this and other products in the future.

Wasting time supporting "free/trail" users does never make sense. Offer the free trail without support. A good product never really needs support anyways. If you feel you are supporting every user then this tells me that the product is not ready for production and you need to fix what is broken or figure out a way to not spend all your time supporting this or any product.

The AOL comment is very interesting considering that many CEO's, VP's and major influential people typically have kids and family that use AOL. All it takes is some teen to like your product enough to tell "daddy" about this cool tool they found online and before you know it NBC is using it with all their affiliates because "daddy" was President of NBC or the CTO. I personally don't care much for AOL's services but many "high" profiled people are sometimes forced to use AOL because they live in remote/new/private areas that sometimes cannot get anything other than AOL.

I was under the impression that:

Originally Posted by articlebot

We could REALLY use some help in the "marketing" department, for sure!

So all I was offering was some advice. Whether AB/Don chooses to use this advice is really up to him/them. G10 also makes a good point about word of mouth. It's the most powerful marketing tool that exists today.

Anyways, as I said AB has chosen a path and I wish him well.

imaginemn