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Old 02-19-2011, 09:14 AM
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Wink 100% no-follow LinkBuilding case study!

For those who are only looking for do-follow links from other websites, think again. This is an interesting case study of 100% no-follow link building.


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Nofollow links passing value or rankings has been the underlying question since this inline link attribute was developed back in 2005. Many millions of websites have implemented this method to tell Google to not follow certain links that the website owner may not necessarily be able to "vouch" for. Nofollow has also been used to sculpt internal PageRank flow as websites continuously tighten their website's internal linking and navigation paths to focus on the most important pages of their websites. Further, the nofollow link attribute is built into many popular CMS platforms like WordPress and Drupal, so it's one of the most common and standardized outbound link attributes currently being used. So, considering the input from Google over the past five years and the larger percentage of Webmasters concluding nofollowed links were mainly pointless to pursue or acquire, this question is the one we were focused on answering in our experiment:
"Do rel=nofollow links pass or denote PageRank, rankings, or subsequent page value?"
The answer is yes to at least two of these -- rankings and some page value.
I know you're probably saying "Whoaaa! Hold on there partner. You can't conclusively say that nofollowed links pass value and actual rankings without some sort of testing or proof." We knew this question would be asked. So let me answer with proof of our findings and also back it up with what other well-respected SEOs are also concluding with their own findings for nofollow links and Google's not-so-defined perception of them. It should also be noted that in many instances a nofollow link acts as a means of link discovery for Google. There are a lot of other nuances to Google's algorithm for calculating links -- such as internal navigation and anchor text used within a website for just a few short examples. Our goal was to see how far beyond link discovery some testing would go.
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http://www.socialseo.com/blog/an-exp...in-google.html

Got to say another Google algorithm has been leaked.
 
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Dofollow doesn't exist.

And I get way more traffic from nofollow links than I ever did with links without the attribute attached.
 
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Dofollow doesn't exist.

And I get way more traffic from nofollow links than I ever did with links without the attribute attached.
Do-follow doesn't exists? What is not follow is do-follow by default, so why wouldn't it exist? Do you exactly understand what do follow means?
 
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Do-follow doesn't exists? What is not follow is do-follow by default, so why wouldn't it exist? Do you exactly understand what do follow means?
Like I said before, dofollow doesn't exist.
 
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Do-follow doesn't exists? What is not follow is do-follow by default, so why wouldn't it exist? Do you exactly understand what do follow means?
What is meant is that "dofollow" is a slang term.

There is no attribute named "dofollow;" and, no attribute accepts a value of "dofollow."

There is only the "nofollow" value, which is accepted by both the rel attribute, and the content attribute of a meta element when its name attribute has the value "robots."

The problem with using the slang is that it has led many to believe that it's a valid attribute value. Thus, it's use is to be discouraged.

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What is meant is that "dofollow" is a slang term.

There is no attribute named "dofollow;" and, no attribute accepts a value of "dofollow."

There is only the "nofollow" value, which is accepted by both the rel attribute, and the content attribute of a meta element when its name attribute has the value "robots."

The problem with using the slang is that it has led many to believe that it's a valid attribute value. Thus, it's use is to be discouraged.

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Like I said before, dofollow doesn't exist.
We know the tag rel="dofollow" does not exists. What we mean by saying dofollow is when ever a link is not attributer by rel="nofollow" means its dofollow/not nofollow, what ever you want to call it.

rel="nofollow" tag is only used by Google. This is to tell Google that " Please do not pass on the page rank on those pages". Other than that pass on the page rank to all other links. So, yes you are right rel="dofollow" Tag doesn't exist but what we mean by dofollow exists.
 
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Many of them who do not have basic html knowledge might not even understand what are we talking about.
And, it is incumbent on us to teach them when and where necessary. At the very least, we should take care so as to not increase their misunderstandings.

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We know the tag rel="dofollow" does not exists
Those who you above address do not know that.

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What we mean by saying dofollow is when ever a link is not attributer by rel="nofollow" means its dofollow/not nofollow, what ever you want to call it.
Since many of said persons do not know that "dofollow" is not a formal attribute value, we cannot assume that all here know precisely what we mean.

If one wishes to avoid the use of the double-negative, the adjective followed, without quotes or emphasis, would be both properly descriptive and technically correct.

Precision of language is a prerequisite for a common understanding.

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With respect to Google, a link with rel="nofollow" :
  • Is not counted toward the PageRank of the target page;
  • Is included in the Link Profile of the target page;
  • Is not used for discovery purposes; but,
  • May be indexed for its Anchor Text.

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With respect to Google, a link with rel="nofollow" :
  • Is not counted toward the PageRank of the target page;
  • Is included in the Link Profile of the target page;
  • Is not used for discovery purposes; but,
  • May be indexed for its Anchor Text.

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Having read the full thread I understand that there is no dofollow attribute exists in html coding. But it is used among SEO to understand and categories the link building techniques. deepsand has explained the term in detail.
 
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whatever this case study proves, i still stick to only dofollow links.
 
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whatever this case study proves, i still stick to only dofollow links.
I think it would be better if you mix it up! You wont lose anything if you have more links indicating to your site right? Additionally you might get some direct traffics, which is very cool!
 
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don't say like dofollow doesn't exist.Do follow just means the absence of no follow tag in the links.
To say absence of no follow easily we people on our own created a new word dollow.
 
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don't say like dofollow doesn't exist.Do follow just means the absence of no follow tag in the links.
To say absence of no follow easily we people on our own created a new word dollow.
Why not? It doesn't exist.
 
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Why not? It doesn't exist.
Ok, ok it doesn't exists. Now, what do you call the link that has no nofollow attribute? When the discussion is about linkbuilding and people are talking about getting links that passes on the page rank?
 
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Ok, ok it doesn't exists. Now, what do you call the link that has no nofollow attribute? When the discussion is about linkbuilding and people are talking about getting links that passes on the page rank?
I don't call them anything, I refer to them as "not having nofollow attribute attached".
 
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I don't call them anything, I refer to them as "not having nofollow attribute attached".
It's ok if you love to write it in that way. But for us we just developed a short word phrase for it, it's called "dofollow links" and we love to use it. Others in our community also understands it. So it can be added (if not already) in the SEO dictionary .
 
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Thanks for the article, it was an interesting read. It's good to be remembered that we don't know Google's algorithm and that we should not restrict ourselves to getting only certain types of backlinks.
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don't say like dofollow doesn't exist.
Well, it doesn't.

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Do follow just means the absence of no follow tag in the links.
That is not the way that all understand it.

There are those who actually think that there is such a thing as a "dofollow" attribute value.

A proper word here would be followed.

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It's ok if you love to write it in that way. But for us we just developed a short word phrase for it, it's called "dofollow links" and we love to use it. Others in our community also understands it. So it can be added (if not already) in the SEO dictionary .
Actually, its usage was initiated by bloggers who thought it to be a valid attribute value. The usage was then expanded to include the imperative "do follow." This was followed by various extensions, called "dofollow plug-ins," for blogging platforms designed to strip rel="nofollow" from posts.

The result is that there is no common understanding as to the meaning of "dofollow."

Each using it according to his own definition results in babel.

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Do-follow doesn't exists? What is not follow is do-follow by default, so why wouldn't it exist? Do you exactly understand what do follow means?
I agree, it exists by default.
 
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