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01-15-2006, 05:34 AM
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CEO, V7 Inc
Join Date: 09-27-03
Location: Japan, mostly
Posts: 42,618
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Yahoo & Meta Description / Meta Keywords
I guess I set up a meta keywords and meta description test on my blog a while back - two years ago. But then I forgot about it.
Here's what I put in the index page:
Code:
<meta name="keywords" content="John Scott, Internet Marketing, Marketing, Brand, Branding, Idea, Thoughts, BrainDead, Brain Dead, Pepsi, Coke, Crack">
<meta name="description" content="John Scott's Internet Marketing Blog. Read inane, pointless braindead posts about branding, marketing and search engine optimization.">
Now I was checking these today, and the meta keywords and the meta description have no pull on Google whatsoever. Yeah, old news.
But on Yahoo I found:
Meta Keywords test:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Bra...psi+John+Scott
It actually outranks pages where that text appears on the page.
Meta Description test:
http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=poi...ad++John+Scott
Again, it outranks pages where that text appears on the page.
Seems that using the meta tags is still quite useful for ranking in Yahoo.
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01-15-2006, 06:17 AM
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Junior Member
Join Date: 01-14-06
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Agreed,
I did this test awhile back when I couldnt seem to rank very well in Yahoo. I just looked at the source code for the first page results and they all had the keyword meta tag so I through mine in and started to climb again.
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01-15-2006, 12:33 PM
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Join Date: 01-07-06
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Wow John... That's quite a blog! interesting life, great insight, and well written... sounds like a movie
Also interesting how Yahoo treats those metas - I've found that MSN has been really after title tags... (same sort of tests)
NeO
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01-15-2006, 03:01 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: 01-11-04
Location: Folsom
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Testing for one of my sites now.
Going to see if it will put me back to #1, I`ve been hovering at ~5 all of 2005.
I`ve seen google use these results in serps under the url to the page.
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01-16-2006, 12:36 AM
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CEO, V7 Inc
Join Date: 09-27-03
Location: Japan, mostly
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Originally Posted by neo1seo
Wow John... That's quite a blog! interesting life, great insight, and well written... sounds like a movie
Also interesting how Yahoo treats those metas - I've found that MSN has been really after title tags... (same sort of tests)
NeO
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MSN is weird. They like index pages it seems, and don't give deep pages much weight. They don't give an ounce of weight to meta data either, IMO.
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01-16-2006, 04:48 AM
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Word to the wise - check out this page for meta-data:
http://www.btopenworld.com
Why? BT and Yahoo! teamed up for broadband services in the UK, and Yahoo! apparently gave BT a list of guidelines for how to use meta-data most effectively.
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11-26-2006, 01:06 PM
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Now i'm confused msn have taken all of my meta tags into consideration,
and its working well for me.
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11-26-2006, 01:06 PM
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Join Date: 11-22-06
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yahoo and Google is where i am struggling with the meta tags.
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11-26-2006, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: 08-26-06
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This is pretty confusing. But at least it is good to know that meta tags can help with yahoo. But the question is why?
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11-26-2006, 08:20 PM
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Join Date: 11-25-06
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Thanks for making this post. I've been having some problems with yahoo only and maybe this is why.
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11-27-2006, 01:55 AM
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Join Date: 11-22-06
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I agree with webnauts, use that seo tool it will help you enormously.
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11-27-2006, 02:38 AM
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Join Date: 11-09-03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by costa blanca
I agree with webnauts, use that seo tool it will help you enormously.
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That is my tool. LOL
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11-27-2006, 03:41 AM
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Join Date: 11-22-06
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Well Done you.
its an excellent tool
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11-27-2006, 05:29 AM
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Join Date: 10-26-06
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Bit of a story,
I bought a domain name tier1-workpermit.com a few weeks ago.
I have google analytics running on it and am posting 1 ad everynow and then on the gumtree.com to get traffic in as a test.
if I search yahoo for [tier1 work permit] I am number1!
google I come in top 10 with the gumtree ad.
I have had about 20 people on the site all together>
I have no links that I know of other than the posted advert ones....
I do have a number of links out to big uk government bodies to specific content pages, but none in..
I ran the seo tool listed above and I have no meta tags, but good % keywords?
If only it was this easy?
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11-29-2006, 09:12 PM
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v7n Goddess
Join Date: 09-24-06
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I may be a litttttle off topic here but IMO you just have to remember that it's a bot that crawls your code and not a human, so you have to make it clear what you wanttaken note of.
I like to stick to these guidlines when setting any site up
Quote:
<!-- start info -->
<!-- COPYRIGHT (C) ursite - all rights reserved -->
<!-- Designed by ursite graphics in city, country -->
<!-- Contact Name: you@ursite.com -->
<meta name="Publisher" content="">
<meta name="Publisher-Email" content="you@ursite.com">
<meta name="description" content="">
<meta name="keywords" content="">
<meta name="Identifier-URL" content="http://www.ursite.com/">
<meta name="revisit-after" content="# Days">
<meta name="ROBOTS" content="ALL">
<link rel="ToC" href="http://www.ursite.com/index.html">
<link rel="Home" href="http://www.ursite.com/index.html">
<!-- end info -->
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Just a little thing i researched...anyway, for some reason google and yahoo love me, so i will never complain lol 
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11-29-2006, 11:03 PM
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Wow that looks clean. How long have you been using this ?
What do you typically put in for "revisit-after" ....seems like you would want everything visited often.
2 days ?
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11-29-2006, 11:22 PM
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Southern Brat
Join Date: 10-13-03
Location: Texas
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<meta name="revisit-after" content="# Days">
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Tanya, you know that this code is telling the bots NOT to visit you for X number of days, right?
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11-29-2006, 11:34 PM
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Join Date: 11-09-03
Location: European Union
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I do not see any sense using these tags, as the SE either.
<meta name="Publisher" content="">
<meta name="Publisher-Email" content="you@ursite.com">
<meta name="Identifier-URL" content="http://www.ursite.com/">
<meta name="revisit-after" content="# Days">
<meta name="ROBOTS" content="ALL">
And about the publisher, his/her mail, there are better solutions, than just hiding them from your visitors. Or do the SE care who the publisher or his/her email is?
And upon that, you are just adding redundant code to your pages, decreasing code to text ratio, and increasing their loading time.
Or have I missed something here?
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11-30-2006, 01:24 AM
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Contributing Member
Join Date: 11-22-06
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i am not sure what sense it makes to use all of those meta tags,
please explain why you use them.
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