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Old 03-06-2006, 10:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Problems with indexing dynamic content?

Sorry if this is a newbie question, but I couldn't find the answer from searching the forum.

I am thinking of building a site using postnuke. So, the content will be stored in a database and pulled up as needed. Do search engines have a problem with this dynamic content, or will it read the articles ok?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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As long as your URLs are all "clean" (i.e. no GET variables) and publicly visible you should have no problems.
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Old 03-06-2006, 10:58 AM   #3 (permalink)
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As far as you have link to dynamic page from anywhere it will get indexed. Don't worry at all.Hmm link is important.
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:03 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I have to disagree with that.

If you look at queries crafted to return forum posts you'll see that google, yahoo, and msn index urls with get variables just fine.

A problem does occur when some engines encounter a session id in placed in in the url.

If you look at the top 100 of each engine for this query "car forum post reply"
You'll see that google and MSN allow session id's and that yahoo does not show any session ids in the top 100. Google allowing session id's in the url is a new thing that I had read about but hadn't verified until just now.


Here are links so you can check for yourself:

Google: car forum post reply
MSN: car forum post reply
Yahoo: car forum post reply
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Search engines do handle GET variables. However, Google ignores the variable "id". And it usually ignores anything past the first 3 variables.

Simply put, you can have get variables. But it's best not to. If you do have them, keep them to a minimum.
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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veridicus perhaps you should look at the link above to the google search results. Google doesn't ignore "id" anymore.
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:31 AM   #7 (permalink)
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I don't think they ever did. I remember 2 years ago or so there was a discussion of that at WMW and even then the allinurl:id search returned plenty of results.
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I don't go that far back with my own SEO ( as in I tested and verified stuff ) so I can't verify this but... discussion I have read on the topic elsewhere had people saying the an ID in the url dumped you into the supplemental.

I dunno.. thoughts ?
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Old 03-06-2006, 11:40 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Not sure about that.

Speaking of supplemental, v7n went supplemental a few days ago.

site:www.v7n.com v7n

Supposedly Google is looking into it, but I'm guessing it's not something they are going to fix. A lot of forums using vB went supplemental, and it may have more to do with dup content than URL's.

Oh well, looks like I might install that vbSEO hack after all.
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Old 03-06-2006, 01:34 PM   #10 (permalink)
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A lot of forums using vB went supplemental, and it may have more to do with dup content than URL's.
Is it possible that most of the html on the page is common to vb sites while the real meat of the page is too small in proportion of the whole page's content? For example, on the main forum page I would imagine most of the layout html is common to other vb forums while the forum links are all that differentiate them.
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That wouldn't explain why a whole site gets dumped into the supplemental. Thread pages would still be signifigently different so they would get included with that hypothesis and googles near duplicate filter sucks and errors in the favor of inclusion.
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Barry made a catch with some googler saying they are going to get everything fixed in a week:

http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/003432.html
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probably a stupid question, but what's supplemental?
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http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q...=Google+Search

See the "Supplemental" tag next to the listings in the SERPs?

That means the listings are supplemental.
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Are you not seeing the Supplemental Tag?
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Odd! Very odd. Bastards at Google making me look silly.