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Old 03-26-2006, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Site-Sift worth the money to submit?

Is it worth submitting to this directory? If yes, can you back up your response with some facts if possible? thanks!
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:42 PM   #2 (permalink)
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For me I wouldn’t pay to submit to a directory when their purpose really just serves as one more back link for your site - IMHO.
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Depends what you're looking for in a web directory.

Read here.. http://www.seo-guy.com/forum/thread11381.html at this forum they did a test with a website and a link from site-sift directory.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:20 AM   #4 (permalink)
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That thread is worthless without the URL of the site in question.
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Is it worth submitting to this directory? If yes, can you back up your response with some facts if possible? thanks!

I just browsed through the directory and it looks clean enough. I liked it enough to submit a site and I'll definitely be submitting more.
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Old 03-27-2006, 06:01 AM   #6 (permalink)
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If the category page you want to submit to is relevant to your site and the page has page rank than it may be worth a small fee. If your looking for traffic to your site then no, as the directory in question will not generate massive amount, if you want to increase link popularity and are targeting pacific search phrases in your titles then yes.
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Directory submittals alone provide my sites with enough link pop to get se referrals. To me that means it is worthwhile to submit to a directory.

How much I decide to pay depends on how much a visitor makes me. Some of my sites visitorsmake me an average of ( guestimate here ) ~50 cents. Those are more worthwhile to spend money on than the sites where I earn ~5 cents per or less.
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Old 03-27-2006, 09:14 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Just submitted my site today, the category i submitted in is PR6 and i never tried site sift before so ill see what it does to my site! But a submission to site sift is more for link pop than traffic though IMO
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:15 AM   #9 (permalink)
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If the category page you want to submit to is relevant to your site and the page has page rank than it may be worth a small fee.
The category I would submit to is shopping/classifieds which has a pr5. Now, the first tier category of just shopping has a pr6, but does not have my keywork 'classified' in it.

I suppose it would make more sense to submit to the second tier 'classifieds' category even though the pr is lower, right?

Is being listed on a pr5 page worth the submission fee?
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:29 AM   #10 (permalink)
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The category I would submit to is shopping/classifieds which has a pr5. Now, the first tier category of just shopping has a pr6, but does not have my keywork 'classified' in it.

I suppose it would make more sense to submit to the second tier 'classifieds' category even though the pr is lower, right?

Is being listed on a pr5 page worth the submission fee?
You can't go wrong with a pr5 and relevant content.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:32 AM   #11 (permalink)
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You can't go wrong with a pr5 and relevant content.
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Old 03-27-2006, 10:41 AM   #12 (permalink)
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What is your methodology for using PR for the value of a link ?

Toolbar PR means next to nothing anymore.
It doesn't prove:
- Traffic
- Incoming Links
- Whether the page passes PR
- Or even if the page has PR at that moment since toolbar PR is not real PR

PR is a dumb reason to base a link buy off of.

The only thing PR ( or rather the lack of it ) is good for is to tell if a page has been penalized.
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You must be consider it for one of two or both reasons
!) PR
@) Traffic ... !!!!

You will not get traffic what you pay ...
You will not get PR piece what you pay ..

But also remember site sift is pretty popular it must bring you better deal than any other less popular directory.

And i think $100/year is good deal to get link on PR4 page with approx 200 -400 UV
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You can't go wrong with a pr5 and relevant content.

PR5 is pretty hard to come by especiall if you can just submit and your included. How many links on that PR5 page? Less links mean more weight.
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Old 03-27-2006, 01:47 PM   #16 (permalink)
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How many links on that PR5 page?
12 links.
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Old 03-28-2006, 09:04 AM   #17 (permalink)
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I always submit to Site-Sift. Clean directory with a responsive group behind the wheel.

By "clean directory" I mean they refused my crap spam sites. I have a set of sites I submit to directories - if they get approved the directory has zero QC in place becuase the sites are intentionally spammy.
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Yea I submit to site-sift.

Seems a good directory
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What is your methodology for using PR for the value of a link ?
I'll answer your question, with a question, You have two sites with relevant content, one PR3 one PR5, you can only choose one which one would you choose?

Google will class the PR5 as a higher authority site, and a backlink from this site will carry more weight in the algorithm, it's simple mathematics.
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I'll answer your question, with a question, You have two sites with relevant content, one PR3 one PR5, you can only choose one which one would you choose?
I would not make that decision based on outdated toolbar PR.

I choose the site with the best content and that offers the best position for my link regardless of PR.
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