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Old 04-13-2006, 09:26 AM   #1 (permalink)
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A new article submission SEO experiment

So I am launching a new blog. The best part is that it has no links. Why is that good? It gives us a chance to retry my failed article submission experiment.

Because this site has no links, it should be very easy to keep track of how many links it picks up from the articles I submit.

Now I still have to write the article, and I might try a different submission service so don't get too excited yet. It will be a few days before things even get started.

And it will ahve a link from the web site review section of this forum and from pinging sites, but that should be few enough for us to keep track of thinks easily. To keep track, I'll be going to Yahoo and searching link:http://www.healthspanblog.com/ and checking my traffic to see where my referrals are coming from.

By the way, I know that articles have potential. For example I picked this one on marriage in the Philippines up from wherever and now the author has a free PR 5 link that must be sending him some traffic. I suppose not all article writers will be so lucky.
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James, good idea. But to make it really good experiment you should make it have ZERO links, except from article stuff.

I am going to be doing this type of test with a new SEO resource site I put up. Not really a site I seriously want to promote, so I figure it would make a good test subject site for testing free directory submissions.

I have seen website penalized after submitting to 500 or 1,000 of those free directories, so I want to do that to this site and see what happens.
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Old 04-13-2006, 09:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Free directories? I'm already convinced that they help.

Regarding my article submission thing, if the only point was to count backlinks I would agree that there should be no other links. But in addition to counting backlinks, I also want to see if this is a cost and time effective way to promote a site.

However, when I say this I mean is it an important part of an overall strategy. I think we already know that promoting a site only through articles isn't the way to go. In other words, I'm not really interested in what the article sites will do alone because realistically I will never use only article sites to promote one of my projects.
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James, good idea. But to make it really good experiment you should make it have ZERO links, except from article stuff.

I am going to be doing this type of test with a new SEO resource site I put up. Not really a site I seriously want to promote, so I figure it would make a good test subject site for testing free directory submissions.

I have seen website penalized after submitting to 500 or 1,000 of those free directories, so I want to do that to this site and see what happens.
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Okay, let me get in on this. One of you can do articles, one can do directories, on completely new sites. I'll do both

As an experiment I'm starting up 10 new sites and using different techniques, so for one of them I'll do 300 directory submissions over three weeks and submit to 100 or so article sites in the same amount of time, without getting any other links.
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Old 04-13-2006, 06:53 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Nice one! This could end up being meaningful...
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Okay, let me get in on this. One of you can do articles, one can do directories, on completely new sites. I'll do both

As an experiment I'm starting up 10 new sites and using different techniques, so for one of them I'll do 300 directory submissions over three weeks and submit to 100 or so article sites in the same amount of time, without getting any other links.
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Question about article submissions: do you guys try to use anchor text, etc., in the actual article? what about the resource box? or are you just hoping for inbound links regardless of anchor?

i've tried both (with and without anchor). iT seems like most article sites are just trying to get as much free content as possible so they often post w/out review. what this means is that the articles either show up with html code displayed, or with links. id say its about 50/50 in my experience. im wondering what others do in this area?
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I do the anchor text in the author box. You never know when a serious web site is going to like your article like I did with the wedding article.

I just did a search for my article to demonstrate and found these scumbags using my article stripped of the links: http://www.articlego.com/article2203...aa293e5c679aee

They are registered at GoDaddy so if I complain about them they might get shutdown for a while...
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I just did a search for my article to demonstrate and found these scumbags using my article stripped of the links: http://www.articlego.com/article2203...aa293e5c679aee

They are registered at GoDaddy so if I complain about them they might get shutdown for a while...
ughhhhhhhhhhhh that's annoying.
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Yahoo shows 9 links, mostly from technorati and a couple from ym site. The article should get submitted soon. Let's see what happens.
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hmm that's an interesting experiment you have going on. i would love to see the results of that.

i have consistently been posting article with anchor text in the author section if there is an author available. do these anchor text links only work if your article is picked up by a major site, or is writing articles and submitting nearly enough to make a difference.
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Well the first time I tried this I did it on sites that already had thousands of backlinks. As far as I can tell, nothing was accomplished. This newer site should give us a better test.
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hmm that's an interesting experiment you have going on. i would love to see the results of that.

i have consistently been posting article with anchor text in the author section if there is an author available. do these anchor text links only work if your article is picked up by a major site, or is writing articles and submitting nearly enough to make a difference.
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James:

I have read this thread with a lot of interest.

I am new in the Article Marketing Game. I own a brand new article directory, and I am experimenting with a lot of things. You are free to test on mine.

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I don't 'Force Feed' my directory with mass postings (A lot of people do that) .....I believe that article marketing will eventually be as much abused as linking has been over the last few years. Whether the search engines will clamp down and how is another issue.

What do you guys think?

Any winning tips from you guys are most welcome.

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I've started getting notices that my article has been accepted (or one place even rejected it). Up to 12 backlinks now but none from the articles - all from technorati or my own blog.
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Congrats to articledepot.uk for being the first article site to show up in my backlinks.

SERPs in Yahoo are interesting because they don't include my homepage but #3 and #5 are individual pages on my site. #1 and #2 are Technorati tags (which I don't use, but I do ping Technorati) with my blog's info. In Google, the top 2 results are technorati tags.
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Interestingly, after doing a Google search for healthspan blog I found the #1 result was a trackback I left on some other blog. On the second page I found one of the article sites I submitted to. So far, the site hasn't been indexed at all by Google (and they show no backlinks), while Yahoo has 4 pages indexed. MSN has 7. I'm not sure, but there are probably around 30 pages now.

I'll proabbly give it another week to see if the articles do anything. Then we'll see what kind of impact a few paid directory listings can have. In my experience one or two good directory listings will get a site indexed real fast...
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What software are you using in your directory? I am interested in starting one and would like some recommendations.
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Thanks James, I will check it out.
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