How significant is Alexa rank?

[Turkey Property]

Originally Posted by snakeair

I get interested advertisers asking for more up-to-date analynics data all the time. They don't really check my alexa ranking but it's still under 150,000 which means nothing to me anyway's.

I think this is a myth that still floating around online.

That's pretty much what I thought. If I were an advertiser I would want to see some analytics. If a site owner quoted their Alexa rank at me and I didn't know what it meant, a quick search would tell me it wasn't a reliable statistic. It is difficult to imagine that anyone willing to part with money for advertising on a site would do otherwise.

[Ord Allenbea]

Not only advertisers are highly misinformed so are many internet marketers that swear by alexa, compete, and the rest.

Originally Posted by Turkey Property

I've heard this said elsewhere, and if it is true there must be some poorly informed advertisers out there.

[Dean Kirkland]

For me and my team Alexa.com stats are an important factor that we use to decide whether a directory is a good directory or not as good.

[Ord Allenbea]

Did you know some sites actually block Alexa ? If you are using Alexa to determine the performance of a site then you are leaving yourself short. You could very well be missing out on some really good sites that may show low stats in Alexa.

Originally Posted by Dean Kirkland

For me and my team Alexa.com stats are an important factor that we use to decide whether a directory is a good directory or not as good.

[Dean Kirkland]

@Ord Allenbea

Yes I would imagine some sites do block Alexa. Does it matter to me? No.

Generally speaking, the Alexa stats in the Sparky widget are a quick way to gauge how popular a site is. It works good for us, we've been using it for years, and to be frank, it suites us quite well for what we do.

[Ord Allenbea]

That is the point though - Alexa has no way to tell how a website does and that includes the popularity of a site.

Alexa has a few million toolbar users but there are in the US alone over 245,000,000 internet users. Alexa can only count the toolbar users, they have no idea how long a non-tool bar users stays on the site, how many times they visit, what they do on the site.

So you do the math, you really going to base your business decisions on a website that obviously can not tell a sites popularity or how much traffic a site gets. For those that do I wish you luck but you are seriously missing out on some great sites that could help your business grow by 10 fold. Not to mention all the valuable time you waste looking up stats on Alexa.

Originally Posted by Dean Kirkland

@Ord Allenbea

Yes I would imagine some sites do block Alexa. Does it matter to me? No.

Generally speaking, the Alexa stats in the Sparky widget are a quick way to gauge how popular a site is. It works good for us, we've been using it for years, and to be frank, it suites us quite well for what we do.

[Noahqw]

Alexa is one of the most flawed website ranking systems there is.. yet its quite popular for the fact they're excellent at marketing their system. Put very little weight into Alexa's rankings. You're probably thinking that the only reason I'm saying this is that my website has a terrible Alexa ranking.. you would be wrong. My Alexa ranking is in the 99.9% of all websites but I still think the system is flawed so I discard these numbers and concentrate on the actual traffic numbers.

[virtueinfo11]

how alexa rank count? depend on link popularity or website PR?

[Ord Allenbea]

PR means nothing but I know many will argue with that so I will not get into the debate. Alexa can only count their own toolbar users and nothing more, this is how they rank sites.

I could have 4,000 unique visitors a day and only 100 of them use alexa toolbar. Alexa will say I rank prob at 3.2 million or something because they can not count the other 3,900 uniques I get a day.

Thus Alexa is worthless!

Originally Posted by virtueinfo11

how alexa rank count? depend on link popularity or website PR?

[dofollowforum]

My new website (20 day old domain) has seen phenominal rise in Alexa Ranking compared to even my 5-6 year old domain which gets 2k UVs a day.

I have made it into a Case Study at:

dofollowforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=137

Noting down the Alexa rank every update. And as time passes seems like it is only going up and hoping for even better rankings in the future!

Can anyone please elaborate some more on how important this value is? And is it rising quickly because it is a Forum and people spend more time on it?

[Ord Allenbea]

Websites are grouped into categories (Google or Alexa does not want you to know this) and the group you are in does change the actual rankings. For example a forum can rise faster than a wordpress blog even if both are being posted to every day.

Forums by nature have a higher ranking but this does depend upon activity, social validation, and sharing of the pages/threads. You have to take into consideration that when posting on a forum it will have several page views (reloads) during that post. Posting on a blog does not always reload the page, depends upon the theme and blog being used.

Originally Posted by dofollowforum

My new website (20 day old domain) has seen phenominal rise in Alexa Ranking compared to even my 5-6 year old domain which gets 2k UVs a day.

I have made it into a Case Study at:

dofollowforums.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=137

Noting down the Alexa rank every update. And as time passes seems like it is only going up and hoping for even better rankings in the future!

Can anyone please elaborate some more on how important this value is? And is it rising quickly because it is a Forum and people spend more time on it?

[dofollowforum]

Originally Posted by Ord Allenbea

Websites are grouped into categories (Google or Alexa does not want you to know this) and the group you are in does change the actual rankings. For example a forum can rise faster than a wordpress blog even if both are being posted to every day.

Forums by nature have a higher ranking but this does depend upon activity, social validation, and sharing of the pages/threads. You have to take into consideration that when posting on a forum it will have several page views (reloads) during that post. Posting on a blog does not always reload the page, depends upon the theme and blog being used.

That explains many things, thanks!

So in your opinion is an Alexa Ranking of ~600,000 in about 20 days alright?

[Ord Allenbea]

In my opinion people should stop wasting their time with Alexa rankings. It means nothing at all. Again I could have 4,000 uniques per day and only 100 alexa toolbar users. Alexa will say I have something like a 2.9 million ranking because they only count toolbar users.

My forum is 5 months old and it has something like 176,000 ranking on Alexa, I could care less because I know what my stats are.

Originally Posted by dofollowforum

That explains many things, thanks!

So in your opinion is an Alexa Ranking of ~600,000 in about 20 days alright?

[MarkHeron]

I have to agree with you there. Alexa was reliable, what, 5 years ago? Now its results are too skewed and almost useless. Still nice to see you doing better than other sites on it, though.

[Ord Allenbea]

AWSTATS Rule! They tell me everything I need to know. If I want to know more then I just access my raw access logs, course I have a dedicated server which allows me to access my raw logs.

Originally Posted by MarkHeron

I have to agree with you there. Alexa was reliable, what, 5 years ago? Now its results are too skewed and almost useless. Still nice to see you doing better than other sites on it, though.

[dofollowforum]

Thanks! I was thinking giving too much important to Alexa (nowadays) is fail as it doesn't seem accurate at all.

And like I said my blog receives 2k UVs a day whereas the Forum hardly 100-200 but still it has a much higher Alexa Ranking.

[addlinkweb]

absolutely, because many people on the internet looks for page rank and alexa rank to determine the quality of website and by increasing alexa you will build up a good reputation over the web.
put alexa widget in your site it will boost your alexa rankings

[Ord Allenbea]

You did not bother reading the thread did you ? You might actually learn something if you did. Alexa rank is not important to as many as you think. Those so called experts say it is so many like you just follow what they say.

Want to build a good reputation over the web ? Put out high quality products, create high quality informative and proven content, Socialize with others in social media, treat your customers as family, do not push any product that you would not buy yourself.

Those are some simple tips to build reputation that has nothing to do with Alexa.

Originally Posted by addlinkweb

absolutely, because many people on the internet looks for page rank and alexa rank to determine the quality of website and by increasing alexa you will build up a good reputation over the web.
put alexa widget in your site it will boost your alexa rankings

[breactiv]

It helps to have a good Alexa rank if you want others to value your site, but for a site's grow is important to add quality content and relevant links.

[SEOnomics]

It is very important, period. You should not ignore it if you ever plan to sell (flip) your site or blog. If you are just focusing on SEO for a site you will never sell, you can probably ignore it, since a high Google rank typically reflects a decent Alexa rank (but not always).