Site deindexed so create new site or get reindexed?

[OrlandoInsurance]

Well long behold my site just got deindexed by google. Not showing up at all when i put in site:examplesite.com. I can only assume it was due to duplicate content even though it wasnt completely duplicate just spun articles. Only 4 of them.. come on!! Had only 250 backlinks and my page somehow shot to #3 spot of google. My competitors have about 1200 backlinks. Anyhow my site is completely gone. SO what should i do from here? Delete the duplicate content and try to get it reindexed or just create a whole new site?

[donnyw1967]

Personally I would do both, change up the content on the old site and put in for reconsideration, and at the same time start a new one, try to get an aged domain so your linking practices will not cause the google dance. And which ever one is doing better when their are both up, just 301 the lessor to the better site, you will gain more link juice, and increase traffic even more.

[searchbliss]

I would do both as well, and don't "spin" articles. Write your own, and if you can't because you're not knowledgeable in the field, then get a website about subject matter you can write about.

[OrlandoInsurance]

It would be hard to find out but anyone ever hear of the competition for a keyword your targeting see your site creeping up on the search list and then they try and kill your site by building bad backlinks and reporting your site as spam to google.

and then.....BAM!!!!! your deindexed.. :**(

Things like this every happen?

[HTMLBasicTutor]

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[donnyw1967]

Only onsite can get you deindexed, for the very same reason you mentioned.

[OrlandoInsurance]

Good to know. Lol as you can see i am very frustrated. Anyhow I redone my onsite posts and hopefully i can get reindexed.

Hopefully it doesnt take forever.

[commoditytrainer]

If you finally realized that your site was deindexed from Dup content or your spun articles on your site, you got busted by G, for using the Dup content to rank in the search engines, as you stated you were number three and with less backlinks. If you read the dup content penalty by Google, is says specifically that your site will get a penalty ONCE you start to use the dup or similar content on the site to rank in the search engines.

Example: IF you have a site with two different cities and the content is similar in nature on two different pages, either consider making it one page, or create unique content on the other page.

I would correct it as soon as possible, stop building links to your site, fix everything you can think of and if you are not linking out to high authority sites such as linkedin, facebook, having Addthis button on your site, I would do that too because Google is really taking into consideration where website are linking out too, not just the backlinks.

And in the meantime, get yourself another domain.

[OrlandoInsurance]

Originally Posted by commoditytrainer

Example: IF you have a site with two different cities and the content is similar in nature on two different pages, either consider making it one page, or create unique content on the other page.

Great tip because i do have a site that i am targeting about 50 cities and was planning on having similar (spun) content and changing the city state name for each article. So your telling me that would be a penalty..?

[commoditytrainer]

Originally Posted by OrlandoInsurance

Great tip because i do have a site that i am targeting about 50 cities and was planning on having similar (spun) content and changing the city state name for each article. So your telling me that would be a penalty..?

If you read Google's Webmaster Guidelines about dup content the example I used is the same they used. So if you 50 different cities, which I would surmise that you are trying to rank for those cities for the different pages, if the content is duplicate or similar in nature you would only get a penalty when you start to rank your pages with the dup/similar content.

From Google Webmaster Guidelines:

"Duplicate content on a site is not grounds for action on that site unless it appears that the intent of the duplicate content is to be deceptive and manipulate search engine results. If your site suffers from duplicate content issues, and you don't follow the advice listed above, we do a good job of choosing a version of the content to show in our search results."

Pretty clear?

[OrlandoInsurance]

I know this is going in a different direction now but my thoughts were i could create backlinks only to my main domain for a generic keyword like insurance quotes and then create subpages with the content that includes that keyword plus a city and state and that would help my domain rank for variations of my keyword since i have that type of varied content on the site...

[commoditytrainer]

Originally Posted by OrlandoInsurance

I know this is going in a different direction now but my thoughts were i could create backlinks only to my main domain for a generic keyword like insurance quotes and then create subpages with the content that includes that keyword plus a city and state and that would help my domain rank for variations of my keyword since i have that type of varied content on the site...

Yes, I see your point, you would have keyword plus city in the sub-domain which would help to rank for the keyword phrase with the city, but what I was saying is if the content is similar in nature on each of those pages, then yes once you begin to rank any of those pages in the search engine results you could receive the a dup content penalty from Google; therefore if each page is unique then you should not have a problem.

Lastly, and I would like to say that people or site owners that are getting their sites de-indexed or banned by Google know what they are doing, Google does give lee-way per se, for any site owner to take corrective action on their site, little hints come a long the way usually (unless it is blatant, like selling 50 links on a page that has PR 6), and little hints are, a drop in PR at the last toolbar update, a loss in search engine results, loss of impressions in GWT, there are always little indicators that have to be watched so you know what may work and what may not and take corrective action.

Like the Dup content myth so many claim, which they believe if another site has the exact same content, they may end up with a Dup content penalty, which is not the case, and is a fools errand, where the blind lead the blind, and do not read the basic instructions in Google's webmaster guidelines.

[~kev~]

Did I miss the part about your google webmaster tools? And if you received any warning messages to your account?

If you have a question about what google is doing to your site, start with your google webmaster tools, and go from there.

[bermuda]

Your experience can be related to using those spinners which are becoming notoriously popular these days among many webmasters. Unfortunately not many people are aware of this fact that although for a short time, some seemingly original copies may appear on their pages, but because the essences of articles are duplicates and copied materials, so in the long term they will be the losers. Spinners just work like thesauruses, having lots of antonyms and synonyms and replacing some terms.

Even if you have to spend several hours to write one single unique article which consists of only a few short paragraphs, that content will elevate values of your domain over the net, preventing possible problems. About your case, I would say working on your existing website can be a great idea, you can find lots of penalized sites which have returned to the normal mode once again and doing fine. Just erase all duplicate contents and add some fresh materials to that.

[OrlandoInsurance]

Well thanks for all the advice. I guess i will continue to add some new content that is fresh original and work on onsite stuff. However goole still has not let me back on their site.

However my webmaster tools say that i have 30 pages indexed but when searching for my site and those pages i get 0 results.....

Will see what happens

[~CReed]

Originally Posted by OrlandoInsurance

Well long behold my site just got deindexed by google. Not showing up at all when i put in site:examplesite.com. I can only assume it was due to duplicate content even though it wasnt completely duplicate just spun articles. Only 4 of them.. come on!! Had only 250 backlinks and my page somehow shot to #3 spot of google. My competitors have about 1200 backlinks. Anyhow my site is completely gone. SO what should i do from here? Delete the duplicate content and try to get it reindexed or just create a whole new site?

What are the results of an "info:' search for your domain name?

For example: info:V7N.com

[OrlandoInsurance]

Originally Posted by ~CReed

What are the results of an "info:' search for your domain name?

For example: info:V7N.com

Says sorry no information found for the URL. BOOOO

[loo1]

just 301 the lessor to the better site, you will gain more link juice, and increase traffic even more.

[snakeair]

Originally Posted by OrlandoInsurance

Says sorry no information found for the URL. BOOOO

Besides doing what you are currently doing to help get back into Google again, focus on getting better rankings in Bing.

You could still get traffic from Bing while you are waiting for Google to give you some loven.

http://www.bing.com/community/site_b...-for-bing.aspx

For further help with Bing, it's best to start a new thread since this one is about Google.

[garriours]

A simpler option - create a new site.