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Old 04-25-2012, 04:29 AM
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Backlink for better SERP is a myth

I am not a seo expert but speaking from my research i can say that serp ranking and backlinks are not related which many seo experts claims i can prove my assertion with example if i am allowed to post external links
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:42 AM
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I am not a seo expert but speaking from my research i can say that serp ranking and backlinks are not related which many seo experts claims i can prove my assertion with example if i am allowed to post external links
lol, Backlink's are one of 200 factors that search engines look at. Forget your assertions I have done case studies and I know that they matter. PR matters too it is one of 200 ranking factors.

I built two pages on the same day placed similar unique content on each and built one link to each site.

site A I linked a PR 3 to and site B I linked a PR 2 to.

The next day the site with the PR3 was ranking higher than the PR2. Oh and both sites were in Googles SERP a day after building these free wordpress sites. Without those links these pages would have not hit the SERP.

Again backlinks and Page Ranks are just 2 out of 200 factors
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Old 04-25-2012, 08:47 AM
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I was just exchanging comments with someone else who seemed reticent about posting external links - they are ok aren't they as long as they are not self-promotional?
If it is your own site isn't it in your signature? I am sure you can just say "click my signature link"?
But anyway, I am by no means an "SEO expert" but have read and learnt enough through personal experience to believe that SERP and backlinks are currently related so I would welcome your proof that I and others (expert or not) have got it all wrong.
 
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Old 04-25-2012, 10:42 AM
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Again i have to agree with Donnie - My opinion backlinks and content are the two main factors to start to rank high in search engines. If you do not mind me asking what do you class as a backlink?

Please explain just a few questions

1) What do you class as a backlink

2) How did you come to this conclusion

3) How much time have did you leave it to come to this conclusion


I think if you go in to greater detail people here will be able to help you but we need to know why you are thinking this?

I would say you are making a simple easy mistake somewhere down the line to think that backlinks have no value.

Explain your link building process

This is mine:

1) dofollow links to every internal page with a maximum of 1 per page - external nofollow with maximum of 1 per page.

2) No backlinks from sites with more than 30 external links

3) 75% pr3 & above backlinks with a 25% mixture of lower value links

4) I also use this technique but most do not agree i will have to do an example as my vocab is quite bad

example
mydomain.com.my-example-page
mydomain.com.my-example-page/

If i was to build 50 links per day each of those urls, in that format, each url would get 25 each instead of directing all my anchor text to mydomain.com.my-example-page

i add the / to split the total amount of links pointing to that url,google looks at this as a seperate backlink which means i can do double the amount of links per day without pushing my luck. (Well thats what i do i am not sure if its correct but it works for me so i dont need to change it)

People may or may not aggree with my strategie i am just using mine as a example i add up my competitors link value, and simple out do them with link value and content.

Also , this is another factor i take into consideration, I like my site to be able to fit any screen size, I do not have a good phone but i have sent my url to all my friends with different mobile phones to make sure every page is accesble using mobile browsers. This quite important make sure your site is mobile ready.

Also make sure all your backlinks are getting indexed its no good doing a 100 backlinks and not one gets indexed, maybe this is why you think backlinks have no value. A none indexed backlink is not yet a backlink,these are your baby backlinks yet to grow into strong pr pushers.

I know this may sound rude if you have been doing this for a long time but if you are simply posting your links on facebook,twitter etc, these are not backlinks.

People here are willing to help you for nothing in return "unlike most forums" my advice expalin yourt situation , and someone here you point you in the right direction
 
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Old 04-25-2012, 11:13 AM
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I knew I would attract seo experts wrath for posting this but i didnt intend to undervalue their importance all i meant is that if you have UNIQUE content,you dont need backlinks to get good serp
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Please give us some proof.
Site tamilhits.in has top google position for keyphrase kalakalappu mp3 songs
another site wapocean.com is on google first page for keyphrase free mobile download.
Please check their google backlinks
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Old 04-25-2012, 02:07 PM
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wapocean.com is on google first page for keyphrase free mobile download.
I cant see it on the first page of google.com for "free mobile download" what google.? are you using?

Normally what happens when you add good quality content,depending on you niche other websites may add your content to thier own website,if you have links within your text then this creates a backlink,even if you do not have links within your text,the other website may add a link back to for example he may take a small portion of your text and they add a backlink for you "read more" so you do not really have control of your backlinks.

That is just one possible way to get them there are many more, backlinks happen naturally this is the correct way its supposed to happen.

How are you checking for backlinks? What are you using to do this?

Also its good to keep certain things to yourself , i dont mean your opinion i mean keywords & domains, personal information etc. You are in a public forum with many IMS. I would never dream of sharing my keywords. Who knows this time next month you could be earning $1000 per day then people will want a piece of the pie.

To check your backlinks i would use google webmaster tools or invest a bit of money into some good software,you need to be keeping a very vlose eye on this at all time one day you may have 1000 the next you may have 300.
 
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I am not a seo expert but speaking from my research i can say that serp ranking and backlinks are not related which many seo experts claims i can prove my assertion with example if i am allowed to post external links
Backlinks are a huge part of site rankings on google, and bing. .edu and .gov backlinks in particular give more "link juice" because they're trusted more. As of late google has been breaking things constantly and many sites that've ranked high for years have disappeared. Google is about to release yet another big "over optimization" penalty and i'm sure many more quality sites will be deindexed or slapped. Google is out of control but as long as regular users can't tell a difference they have nothing to worry about. SEO is definitely a lot harder today than it was even a year ago and will continue to be in regards to google.
 
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Backlinks are a huge part of site rankings on google, and bing. .edu and .gov backlinks in particular give more "link juice" because they're trusted more.
That is a myth as far as Google is concerned.

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Old 04-25-2012, 03:55 PM
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I cant see it on the first page of google.com for "free mobile download" what google.? are you using?
Sorry the keyphrase is Free Mobile Downloads not download
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Also remember that not all back links are created equal. Poor quality links are not going to add much to your rankings and some may actually hurt it.
 
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Old 04-26-2012, 02:00 AM
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You are doing quite well to get to position 10 for those keywords, climb the ladder a few more spots and you could be in for quite a bit of money. When i am position one i can make $200 per day , in position two , i will make about 30% less , position three , is about 75% less , I am not sure of any lower positions yet, If i was you i would go all out for the next few days searching for high pagerank , low external , related blogs/websites and get some backlinks. I have done a few tests between you and position one and you are not that far away, Put a good few days work in and i think you could get to position one quite easy.

Kepp us updated how your getting on,I would say in position one for that search term you would get no less than 2000 uniqures per day. Optimized correct this could earn you a small wage.

Keep up the good work, Carry on as your doing because whatever your doing seems to be working, when somethings not broke don't fix it.

My advice for you would be to get something called "sep spyglass" Its $100 for the pro version, but the free version is good enough for what you want.

When you have this , start with the guy in position one, find out where he is getting his links,spyglass will tell you this. Then move on to all the other websites in postions 3/4/5/6/7/8/9

Out do them with content & links you should win. Its not hard to get to position one, Its hard keeping position one, but when you get a taste of the money you will get in position one,any other position is not good enough.
 
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Back links play important role in ranking. Quality and thematic back links will boost your ranking in SERPs.
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