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Old 03-06-2015, 11:24 PM
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Although, I don't think it is possible, but i m creating this thread to know, is Google has any other factor as dominating as back links. People say social signals are becoming important, but i could not get ranking boost out of it. i mean what, really is more influencing factor for Google ranking.
My SEO execution concludes, all being said, but back links are the still most ranking boosting factor. You can not rank, or out class back link factor any way.
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Without link building it's not possible to rank your websites.
 
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Without link building it's not possible to rank your websites.
Google doesn't want you to link building, they want you to earn your backlinks. Google's John Mueller: I'd Avoid Link Building In General

Bing wants organic links also: Link building
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Old 03-07-2015, 01:09 AM
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Google doesn't want you to link building, they want you to earn your backlinks. Google's John Mueller: I'd Avoid Link Building In General
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I would like to get a process of exactly what can be done to earn links? What will SEO's do, in such case.
I have gone through the video, i interpretative it as, building links should be a value based method, where when you are linking to a source, it should be for value to the user by navigating to that link.
For Example: when we user click a text link, there should be valuable information about what user is searching for. You are linking with a text which is neither supporting the content of the web page or some how co-relating.
Basically one has to understand that related content marketing with a link as valuable resource can not be treated as link building. But is a quality content marketing. Lesser back link pages, on your over all link profile is certainly a falling in Google's radar as negative. This is a very fine line, which i feel John Muller says.
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I just stopped while i saw the thread title. "ranking without backlink" I though some blackhat method may be revealed.

Backlinks are the important metrics for Google to rank a site. Google always says about Good Content. And Google count long content as Good Content. If all the content is Good in Google's eye, then how they will rank similar sites. Then they will follow social shares, PA, DA, PR etc etc. So Google will never stop this backlinking system. Another thing to mention, if Google stops following backlinks then all the results will be shown from Google Adwords. Now we see, 3-5 sites as ads. On that time, we will see 10 ads on each page and 2-5 organic sites.
 
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I don't think that there's someone out there that has done that...

Backlinks are a massive part of SEO..
 
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If you have no good quality backlinks, So Google will not give your Good SERP rank in search engine
 
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Sadly, backlinks still play an important part of overall SEO.
But you can also spend on advertising to help.
 
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no way..... or use adwords lol
 
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Yes, I saw couple of websites that ranked on Top 5, without even single or just a 2-3 backlinks. But, those sites had unique CMS and viral social media accounts, and maybe that helped a bit.
 
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For any keyphrases in English, there is impossible to rank without backlinks. Backlinks are vital factor for improving SERP of a webpage.
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Yes I think it's possible. The onsite must be great though.
 
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Yes you can rank, only if the industry you are targeting is not very competitive and you have not chosen very specific keywords.

Second - If your content is really valuable to the user and authentic and people are referencing your content for some sort of information.

Your website will rank definitely

But yes don't build links, earn it.

How you can earn links:
if your content is really unique, obviously people will link your content on their blogs / articles/ social profiles etc.
 
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Google doesn't want you to link building, they want you to earn your backlinks. Google's John Mueller: I'd Avoid Link Building In General

Bing wants organic links also: Link building
Exactly. Google wants us all to build quality content as said by HTMLBasicTutor.
I'll put it these way, Having links is important but you should try to gain it rather then build it.

Go for Best Content and you'll definitely get people who'll link to it.
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Quality content with related optimized key word
do all for you you dont need to do any thing
 
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You can rank any keyword if there is no competition without backlinks, it's very easy actually with good on-site optimization.

The problem is that the searches will be so low it's not worthwhile to target those keywords. So better build some backlinks to medium competition keywords and try to rank for those.

It's all about keyword research really.
 
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This is possible. Page Rank does not just focus on backlinks, but many other factors as well. I have seen sites that have a good PR and not a single backlink, but wonderful content...
 
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Always Google see backlinks for website and who is best to top.
 
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Congratulation it is such a great achievement, it could be happened when you do it on-page beautifully and you can promote on social media site. that could be the reason of the ranking on the first page and also could be reason of low competitive keywords.
 
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you can easily rank your website without backlink. you need to publish high quality content as well as bulk content on your website
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