Traps?

[Pimpen 2010]

What are traps? I heard someone talking about them. They sound like really complicated doorway pages + more?

Anyone know / heard about 'traps'?

[Pimpen 2010]

Anyone?

[John Scott]

Doesn't that refer to pages where you can't use the back button??

[Pimpen 2010]

I dunno. he explained it to me and it sounded similar to a complicated dorway page, maybe its something like that, but the bots can't go anywhere else?

[I, Brian]

Ask him to post an explanation here.

[sem4u]

Is it a spider trap?

[SVB]

I always thought it was something like a loop thing, were a spider can get in from some link and not get out again

[dave conz]

Could be a mouse trap, which I understand to mean popup windows which trap you in a never-ending cycle of new windows.

[Pimpen 2010]

Originally Posted by sem4u

Is it a spider trap?

Here is what he said:

it checks all incoming IPs
i have every IP
of every spider
on the net
it checks the incoming ip with the database of spiders
if it does not match
it redirects seemlessly to your site
if it is a spider
it is sent through a huge psuedo directory of links
and text
and meta tags

Thats from the AIM chat. Seems just like a really complicated doorway page

[SVB]

So basically it can tell if its a spider, and if it is, sends it through a pile of keyword pages etc to the main site. hmmmmmm

[Pimpen 2010]

pretty much. but it sounds more complicated, he said other things that I didn't save too and can't remember

[Emancipator]

Why would you want to do this? Re-directs are not a new thing.

[ali]

Well I read about this strategy in some article.Its like..on your website you create a highly optimised page for your keywords which won't look good to your visitors.Then you put up some sort of program,(may be that program's called the trap) on your server that checks the IP address of the person who visits it.If that IP address belongs to a human then he would be moved to the normal page of that website..but if its the IP address of a search engine spider then it would be moved to the highly optimised page,also called doorway page.In that way you'll get high rankings for your keywords through your doorway page but whenever some surfer visits your website he'll be moved to the appropriate page of your website.May be that's what is called the trap??

[Pimpen 2010]

Probably, thanks Ali

[ali]

anytime.....

[compar]

Thats from the AIM chat. Seems just like a really complicated doorway page

It is called cloaking. It is not a redirect or a doorway page. It is cloaking.

[Pimpen 2010]

I talked to him again lol, he said its a little more advanced than cloaking and a newer version of it

[compar]

Originally Posted by Pimpen 2010

I talked to him again lol, he said its a little more advanced than cloaking and a newer version of it

I don't see how. Cloaking depends on knowing the name or IP of the search engine bots and feeding them information to impress them or enhance your ranking. If the visitor is not a known bot then s/he is immediately redirected or sent to the page that is intended for public consumption.

Now it sound to me from

it is sent through a huge psuedo directory of links
and text
and meta tags

That they may be suggesting that they are going to feed the bots more than the avergae cloaker. Maybe yes. Maybe no.

[I, Brian]

Exactly right - it's cloaking.

And search engines such as Google are *very* aware of the issue. I am strongly under the impression that some search engines have other spiders that do not use their common IP range or User-Agent, which is how they catch cloaked pages.

Another point about cloaking, that I read at WebMasterWorld, is that cloaked sites should expect to get caught and banned: the skill of the cloaker as in the extendeding the life of such pages, rather than avoiding being caught altogether.

[Pimpen 2010]

Ok.

What about doorway pages, can you get caught for those?