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11-09-2006, 12:11 PM
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How to get out of Sandbox faster?
Different SEO experts have different opinions about Google Sandbox and how to get out of it sooner. Here are some popular ideas I've heard personally:
1. At first when you launch your website, get a link from a high traffic, credible, related website. When Google discovers your new site through a reputable source, it will look at your site with more trust. So it will either don't enter Sandbox or will get out of it faster.
2. First put your website on a sub-domain of an already indexed and out-of-Sandbox domain and get Google find it there. Then move the site to your real domain with a 301 redirect. Some experts say this will reduce the length of time you remain in Sandbox.
So what do YOU think about the above suggestions? Do you think they work?
Also what other techniques do you know to reduce the number of months your new site remains in Sandbox?
Thank you,
Ladan
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11-09-2006, 01:53 PM
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Not as dramatic, but helpful: get listed in DMOZ, Y! and Business.com directories.
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11-09-2006, 02:46 PM
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The 301 trick is new to me. I should've done that in the past.
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11-09-2006, 03:48 PM
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there are so basic ways to get out of the sandbox.
1. add content to your site DAILY
2. continue to find backlink for your site
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11-09-2006, 06:55 PM
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Getting out of the sand box is harder than you guys think. I say drop it and start all over if you rally depended on google that much then take the painfull steps of getting back out there.
Thank You
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11-09-2006, 08:46 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trichnosis
there are so basic ways to get out of the sandbox.
1. add content to your site DAILY
2. continue to find backlink for your site
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How does that speed the exit from the sandbox?
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11-10-2006, 01:11 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aviva
How does that speed the exit from the sandbox?
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some peoples are making spam sites to get money in short time and as you can understand search engines must prevent this types of peoples
google has started the sandbox to prevent this types of sites.
when you add content daily and find backlink for your site , google will think that "this site is not a spam site"
google will think that you are making a NORMAL site. not a SPAM site.
is everythink clear for you Aviva? 
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11-10-2006, 02:42 AM
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For domains with less competitive keywords, sandbox should not be a problem. I do not know about subdomain stuff, but I feel if you take the following steps you can come out of the sandbox quicky
- Add as many incoming links as possible with appropriate anchor text to overcome the effect of 'new links dampening filter'.
- Keep adding keyword rich content to your website.
- Purchase an already existing domain if possible - ensuring it was not banned by search engines earlier
You can check this article on Google Sandbox for detailed discussion of Google sandbox.
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11-10-2006, 03:00 AM
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Thank you everyone for sharing your opinion.
GoogleSuccess,
Actually I did the first 2 tips you mentioned for my previous website which was about a quite competitive keyword, but it took over a year for it to get out of Sandbox.
It was on the first page of all other major search engines, but nowhere in Google. Now it's in the first page and one of the top 5 results in Google too.
But the idea of having to wait one year for your site to appear in Google is not very pleasant, is it?
So do you know any special tips or "tricks" to act as a shortcut?
Thanks,
Ladan
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11-10-2006, 03:31 AM
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Well, if you have site in highly competitive niches like SEO, Inetrnet Marketing, Home Business, Autos etc, it definitely takes time for Google to trust your site. But even if your site is in the sandbox, it can rank higher in Google for keywords which are not so competitive - so while your site is in sandbox, you should optimize some of your pages for long tail keywords to direct traffic to your site which may not be much but at least it would be targetted.
I'd also recommend you to check if your site is not in the supplemental results. Sometimes people do not check this and assume that their site is sandboxed.
Last edited by googlesuccess; 11-10-2006 at 03:37 AM..
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11-10-2006, 03:42 AM
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Ladan, what is acting as a shortcut? Placing your site into the sub-domain of an existing site?
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11-10-2006, 04:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by googlesuccess
Well, if you have site in highly competitive niches like SEO, Inetrnet Marketing, Home Business, Autos etc, it definitely takes time for Google to trust your site.
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Yes, that was the case for my previous website. It was about email marketing.
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But even if your site is in the sandbox, it can rank higher in Google for keywords which are not so competitive - so while your site is in sandbox, you should optimize some of your pages for long tail keywords to direct traffic to your site which may not be much but at least it would be targetted.
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Yes, you're right. Good point. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Hahh
Ladan, what is acting as a shortcut? Placing your site into the sub-domain of an existing site?
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Yes, what I mean is a technique like the 2 I mentioned that I've heard from some SEO experts.
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11-10-2006, 10:45 AM
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I'm under sandbox effect right now. As googlesuccess said, it is listed in google for minor keywords. Those keywords are the ones that visitors should dig to find my website. But I knew this was the case and it would take a while to get rid of this effect. Thanks for your tips.
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11-11-2006, 07:56 AM
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One more tip - As per an article by Glen Murray, one should register with Google soon after registering the domain name.
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11-11-2006, 09:15 AM
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The best thing of getting out of sandbox would be to keep building links but at slower rates.
Akash
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11-11-2006, 11:37 AM
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Build your site for the longterm. Sometimes the longest road is the fastest road.
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11-12-2006, 01:57 AM
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What do you mean that people make sites for short terms, huh!
Akash
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11-12-2006, 07:27 AM
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Lots of cool info in this thread 
Thanks for the good read 
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11-12-2006, 12:53 PM
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Was referring to link building, get links from a variety of sources keep the link building even over longterm.
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11-12-2006, 05:16 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by googlesuccess
One more tip - As per an article by Glen Murray, one should register with Google soon after registering the domain name.
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And also Glen said to add your site to free directories like he did.. and to start doing this now !
Thank you googlesuccess for the link.
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