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Old 12-20-2006, 01:30 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Building links to my landing pages VS my Index Page.

Newbie question here...

I have a new site with a PR of 0 - I will be concentrating on the long tail here, I have found a couple of niches within my field. I have created about 15 landing pages that target these keyword niches, now I do not know if I should concentrate on building links to my main\index page since this page contains keywords that are a lot more competitive and it will take me a while to get any really good ranking. Or, should I spend most of my time building links to my landing pages which in turn will have a faster time of obtaining top 10 rankings for the keywords I am targeting.

There are a couple of things that I am not clear on.

1. If one of my landing pages ends end with a pr 5 after one year of healthy link building, and say my index page has a PR of 2, does this have any negative effects?

2. If I build links for both at what pace does the SE consider natural link building without raising any flags for a new site? for example, If I build an average of 10 links in a week for www.widgets.com, is ok to build 10 more links to www.widgets.com/bluewidgets.htm ? Does this count as 20 links to the SE?

I guess my questions is this. I the suggested amounth of links to a new site is 10, should this number be distributed withing the domain or can I build 10 links for each landing page and my index page?.

Thank you in advance for responding........

Joe

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Old 12-20-2006, 01:54 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I have heard that deep linking is better but I would like to hear some reasons why.
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I have heard that deep linking is better but I would like to hear some reasons why.
Google ranks pages on a per-page basis, not a per-site basis. Your homepage passes link juice to your internal pages, but to rank well, those internal pages need to get link juice from outside as well.

If you build external links to your internal pages with targeted link text, you will see better results for those phrases.

I like to have at least half my incoming links pointing to sub-pages, and I'll take a deep link over a link to my homepage anyday.

How fast to build links is a tricky question - I have been penalised for using Link Vault too hard - sending a few thousand links to a weak domain over a period of 3 months. 18 months later, the domain is still useless.

When I launch a new site, I like to try to build 5 or so links every few days. And vary your strategy. Do a free directory submission, then a paid submission, them add a forum post somewhere, then add a presell page to a site you already own. Get a mix of PR - good and bad.

Just don't sit down and submit to 300 free directories, then do nothing for a month - to Google, this looks like you are trying to SEO your site.
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"When I launch a new site, I like to try to build 5 or so links every few days."

That's what I am trying to figure out.... should I build 5 links per page or do you mean build 5 or so links per the whole domain.......?
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There is no actual answer to this question.

Thing is, you might be able to get away with 100 links a day fine. But you could also wear a penalty for a lot less than that.

My advice is to build no more than 10 a week for the whole domain, for the first couple of months. Get a mix of homepage and deep links. Use different link building strategies, get a mix of PR, and don't do recips. And add at least one page of original content per week as well.

If things are looking good in a couple of months and you have more content, you may be able to build links quicker then.

This is just my opinion / advice - everyone else will have different experiences as to how to get traction on a new domain.
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Google ranks pages on a per-page basis, not a per-site basis. Your homepage passes link juice to your internal pages, but to rank well, those internal pages need to get link juice from outside as well.

If you build external links to your internal pages with targeted link text, you will see better results for those phrases.

I like to have at least half my incoming links pointing to sub-pages, and I'll take a deep link over a link to my homepage anyday.

How fast to build links is a tricky question - I have been penalised for using Link Vault too hard - sending a few thousand links to a weak domain over a period of 3 months. 18 months later, the domain is still useless.

When I launch a new site, I like to try to build 5 or so links every few days. And vary your strategy. Do a free directory submission, then a paid submission, them add a forum post somewhere, then add a presell page to a site you already own. Get a mix of PR - good and bad.

Just don't sit down and submit to 300 free directories, then do nothing for a month - to Google, this looks like you are trying to SEO your site.
awesome info, thanks
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Every page in internet has pagerank. Try to find which pages are important in your domain and then optimize them for better ranking.

I suggest you to use keyword analysis. This is important and will improve your pagerank.

Index page always has higher pagerank compare to landing pages.
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Index page always has higher pagerank compare to landing pages.
I had a new site in that every page was pr 3 but the index was pr 2, weird.
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I had a new site in that every page was pr 3 but the index was pr 2, weird.
thats bizzare

penalty?
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