Site Wide links - Give your Feedback

tdd1984 · 02-13-2007, 08:21 AM

Hey guys what do you think about site wide links, would you buy site wide links over 1 link? I mean from your opinion do you think 5 links on 1 page coming from 1 domain is better

Johan007 · 02-13-2007, 08:30 AM

More is still better but things may have changed from a few years ago. If I was Google and the internal links are on the Same domain I would rate them well however linking to another domain would count the link as an "advert".

I would like to here people recent observations too.

manageyourlinks · 02-13-2007, 09:43 AM

Yea sitewides. Have purchased a few lately. They dont have the power of a stand alone link on one page.

Use siteswides if your goal is traffic. Dont use sitewides if your trying to bump up a specific term in the SERPS, they wont help much.

John Scott · 02-13-2007, 10:48 AM

Site wide are good for traffic, not so much for Google rankings.

tdd1984 · 02-13-2007, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by John Scott

Site wide are good for traffic, not so much for Google rankings.

You know they say multiple DMOz listings help, but why not site wide links hehe, I guess 1 link from 1 domain anymore only gives so much credit, or I should say multiple listings in directories don't help as much as what they would 3 years ago.

manageyourlinks · 02-13-2007, 03:11 PM

how about this. how many times have you naturally linked to a site, and then preceded to place that link on every single page of your site? (unless of course you have no other choice b/c of your cms, which google might then take into account)

solidghost · 02-13-2007, 05:57 PM

Perhaps it can also depend on the size of the site? A big site with that sitewide link can result in a huge number of backlinks, and it may raise some red flags.

Sadu · 02-13-2007, 08:55 PM

Some of us believe the search engines credit you for one link only - If this is the case, you would normally want them to credit you for the homepage link, which should have the most power.

There are 2 things I do with sitewides...

1. Use a live link on the homepage and nofollow the rest of the links. This ensures you get full juice from the homepage, and still keep traffic from other pages without looking like a sitewide to search engines.

2. I place a different link on every page and squeeze maximum value out of that anchor text.

Instead of a sitewide "Web Development by..." I'll mix it up a bit eg...
"website by..." (links to my homepage)
"web development by..." (links to my web development page)
"web hosting by..." (get sneaky and use that aff link to your web host)
"CMS website by..." (links to my CMS page)
"online marketing by..." (links to my blog on online marketing)

I wrote a script to make the links semi-random - the sitewide link will be randomly picked from a pool, but it won't change once it's placed (links that constantly change don't look natural).

I seem to do ok for the phrases I use in these mixed up sitewides, but this could be for other reasons - I can't prove they are having any effect one way or the other. It's quite possible a sitewide is worth the same as a single link, but it may well be that having varied sitewides as described in option 2 is beneficial.

Happy to share the script if you PM me.

Edit: I'm no authority on this, these suggestions are how I do sitewides, so feel free to do the same or not. If I was google, I would not count a sitewide link from a 1000 page site as being worth 1 link from 1000 sites, so it seems logical they are not super valuable for link juice.

Johan007 · 02-15-2007, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Sadu

I wrote a script to make the links semi-random - the sitewide link will be randomly picked from a pool, but it won't change once it's placed (links that constantly change don't look natural).

Yes random links was the only Blackhat SEO I have ever done and did not know it was blackhat until I was penalized. Semi-random may work but I would not like to try (once stung!)

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Originally Posted by tdd1984

You know they say multiple DMOz listings help, but why not site wide links hehe

Nowdays a DMOZ listings has such little ranking power it only serve as a massive "webmap" for indexing.