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02-23-2004, 03:15 AM
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Inktomi
It seems Yahoo now uses Inktomi. My site, which has been online for 3 years, and which does very well with Google, is not even listed there. I don't see a "submit site" link anywhere on Yahoo. What to do?  Do you need to pay to get included? (That would seem unlikely to me as there are many non commercial sites listed).
Also, when going to Inktomi.com I can't find their own search engine... Am I blind or do I need another URL?? |
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02-23-2004, 03:42 AM
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Odd. I never pay for inclusion in Ink and get in anyway. Are you listed in DMOZ? Usually a listing in DMOZ is enough to get you in Ink.
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02-23-2004, 04:24 AM
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I am listed in DMOZ - have been for about 3 months (it was only about a month ago that Google found it though).
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02-23-2004, 05:26 AM
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Re: Inktomi
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Originally Posted by biginjapan
It seems Yahoo now uses Inktomi. My site, which has been online for 3 years, and which does very well with Google, is not even listed there. I don't see a "submit site" link anywhere on Yahoo. What to do? Do you need to pay to get included? (That would seem unlikely to me as there are many non commercial sites listed).
Also, when going to Inktomi.com I can't find their own search engine... Am I blind or do I need another URL?? |
Inktomi does crawl web site the same Google and other search engines. Are you sure you are not indexed? Did you search for your URL in Yahoo?
Inktomi doesn't seem to have their own public Search Engine interface. Before Yahoo started to use Inktoomi results I always went to http://www.hotbot.com/ to check Inktomi results.
You can pay to get your homepage into Inktomi. It costs $39.00 for the first site you list. The advantage of this is that they guarantee to crawl your site every 48 hours and this can be very useful when you are in the finetuning stage. |
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02-23-2004, 04:10 PM
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Hmm.... I have received 16 visits from yahoo on one of my sites this month, yet it's not found in Yahoo.
INKTOMI is a Yahoo Company.. atleast its ays so on their site.
$40 for how long? got a URL for this seems like it may be worth it.
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02-23-2004, 07:48 PM
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It's not $39 per site but per URL. It's for one year, however I don't think they really follow that because I've known pages to stay in there longer.
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02-23-2004, 09:19 PM
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Originally Posted by RonHollingsworth
It's not $39 per site but per URL. It's for one year, however I don't think they really follow that because I've known pages to stay in there longer.
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Yes it is per page or per URL and it is for one year. However if their normal bot has indexed your whole site then there doesn't seem to be any sense to pay for a second year. |
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02-23-2004, 09:25 PM
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Have things changed? It used to be per page, not per site. If you wanted guaranteed inclusion of one page, you paid for one inclusion. If you wanted more than one page from your site included, you had to pay for more pages.
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02-23-2004, 09:32 PM
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Originally Posted by compar
Yes it is per page or per URL and it is for one year. However if their normal bot has indexed your whole site then there doesn't seem to be any sense to pay for a second year.
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02-23-2004, 10:11 PM
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Andy Beal said yesterday "Now that Yahoo is getting it's results from an Inktomi-based index" in his blog post at http://www.searchenginelowdown.com/2...56346143042473
Is Yahoo using its own index? Not according to that statement. We all know Yahoo is currently using Inktomi's database based on this.
But bigger Q, can we assume from this that Yahoo wont use Inktomi at all after tax day (april 15th)? |
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02-24-2004, 02:14 AM
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It is per page but you may want to hold off for the moment at least while the new Ink/Yahoo submission system is finalized. There might end up with one submission to the new Ink/Yahoo where the results are also used on MSN.
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02-24-2004, 03:16 AM
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Hey, im also not in Inktomi, yet im doing well in google., Whats up?
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02-24-2004, 04:21 AM
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Re: Inktomi
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Originally Posted by biginjapan
It seems Yahoo now uses Inktomi. My site, which has been online for 3 years, and which does very well with Google, is not even listed there. I don't see a "submit site" link anywhere on Yahoo. What to do? Do you need to pay to get included? (That would seem unlikely to me as there are many non commercial sites listed).
Also, when going to Inktomi.com I can't find their own search engine... Am I blind or do I need another URL?? |
Inktomi does crawl web site the same Google and other search engines. Are you sure you are not indexed? Did you search for your URL in Yahoo?
Inktomi doesn't seem to have their own public Search Engine interface. Before Yahoo started to use Inktoomi results I always went to http://www.hotbot.com/ to check Inktomi results. |
Wierd! I see that I am in fact listed when checking my URL in the search box (in Yahoo, not in hotbot.com), but whereas I am king in Google (top 3) even for remote search phrases (low-competition niche, translation) I am not even listed in Yahoo in the first 200 SERPs... Non-related amateur sites about dogs place in the top ten. Even a search on my company name (most of my anchor text links) gives me nothing! Is this search engine pure garbage or can it be that my site has gotten some sort of punishment (hasn't happened in Google, and I have not used spam methods)? |
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02-24-2004, 05:05 PM
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Inktomi guarantees inclusion of 1 url and it will spider that url every 48 hours.
At the end of the year the url tends to stay forever but it is not guaranteed and it will not be spidered all the time.
A url does NOT equal a website or a domain.
I pay for about 5 of my pages that change often so I recon if your page changes every week then I think you should try it.
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02-24-2004, 05:55 PM
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i hope yahoo will eventually work out how they will monitor the PFI inclusion program so people will not simply add a optimized doorway page that happens not to be linked anywhere on there site and is purely for the inktomi/yahoo database.
i do see alot of this happening and it always imo, has been a problem.
if they don't combat this i'm pretty sure there will be alot more of this going on .. even though its quite popular already.
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