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Old 04-17-2007, 06:38 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Of course people can buy links Google can't dictate to you what you do with your own site and your own money.

What they can do is choose to treat your site differently if they don't like what you do. However, I don't think the individual webmaster is the target of this initiative. It would be too easy to get your competitors taken out.
LOL I'm just nervous, must be that contextual links program i started hehe
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Old 04-17-2007, 06:43 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Old 04-17-2007, 07:15 PM   #25 (permalink)
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LOL yes indeed, iheard v7n.com is going to start paying there bloggers $20 dollars per post
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You guys make me feel sad. Posts like this i have read 1 - 3 -5 years ago... and i am still alive.
With the same success i can tell that "the end of the world" are comming.
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LOL yes indeed, iheard v7n.com is going to start paying there bloggers $20 dollars per post
We already are paying out $20 per link placement for orders that came in after the price increase.
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MakePB, there's been a lot of commentary about Matts post.

The problem is: define "paid".

Is a favour paid? How about partnership? How about any arrangement that doesn't involve cash changing hands? How could a human, let alone a machine, determine those relationships with any accuracy?

They can't.

You have to ask yourself why Google are announcing it, rather than just doing it. I think you'll find the reason for that is that they'll manage to scare enough people. The price? One post. Alternatively, the cost of doing it for real, computationally, would be excessive.

I think I know who their targets are, and part of the strategy is create uncertainty and doubt amongst the people who potentially deal with those companies.

FUD.

Exactly.
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I think this whole thing was just an attempt to make people stop selling links on their own.
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We already are paying out $20 per link placement for orders that came in after the price increase.
I bet the bloggers are happy for that, quality is important, but man $20 dollars per link, that high, but hey thats a great pay for a blog post, considering blogsvertise, and these other people are only paying out $5-15.
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Old 04-18-2007, 12:01 AM   #31 (permalink)
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I like very much the concept of exactseek, why John don't build something similar. He is a great leader, we are a pretty big communauty, let's build a network of ressources with differents options (Permanent Contextual Links, Web Directories, etc...)

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Old 04-18-2007, 03:41 AM   #32 (permalink)
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For link selling, Google wants to be the only game in town.

They don't want the little guys like you and me selling links. Only they are allowed to do that without being evil.
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It is a good move by Google and thanks for Matt for giving you notice and time to prepare. I am sure now my site will rank better without all the link buying competition.

It is quite feasible for Google to implement because often paid links look just like “web rings” being a collection of related link and text crossing many site (but ssshhhh! unless you restrict yourself to 1 paid link a site then it will never be detectable)

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If you have $10 000 to buy links... you will always find another 5 000 to hire people and improve design, and content.
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If you have $10 000 to buy links... you will always find another 5 000 to hire people and improve design, and content.
Site owners with $10,000 don't buy links, they hire SEO services.

SEO services are not for little guys, for example:

SEO compagnies charge $3500 for setup and $500 per month for 3 or 5 keywords lol with 12 months contract, no way for little companies.

How many of us could be well ranked on Google first page for more then 20 keywords anyway?

Once again all the little guys will be penalized. I don't care my sites are not made for Google but for people. My main traffic doesn't come from Google, so I am ready.
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Site owners with $10,000 don't buy links, they hire SEO services.

SEO services are not for little guys, for example:

SEO compagnies charge $3500 for setup and $500 per month for 3 or 5 keywords lol with 12 months contract, no way for little companies.

How many of us could be well ranked on Google first page for more then 20 keywords anyway?

Once again all the little guys will be penalized. I don't care my sites are not made for Google but for people. My main traffic doesn't come from Google, so I am ready.
did you make that site? that you have natural elemetents, or buy it?
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I think this will just push some webmasters to start using more black hat tactics. I mean what is wrong with paying for things(links) that will help in your marketing? Every business in the world that wants to survive does some form of advertsing.

Why not put up a PPP network and put links to your competition. Then report them for paid links. This opens a real can of worms.
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