People Selling links in forum signiture - Whats the deal?

[coolguy27]

More sig links more money is that right? Correct me if I'm wrong? I've seen many signature links that are for sale in some websites...

[-MGS-]

Yes, that how it is I think. I seen people selling their space for $30 per link. Which is a lot of money

[Wing Chun]

it's rubbish. forum sig links are risky enough because if the forum goes down then so do all ur links, they're all repeated content too and few come from pages extremely relevant to the link content.

[theseokit]

Its to bad we cant sell sig links here, if we could I would post way more. Thats one of the main ways I make money, just needs rules like no certain type of sites in sig links...

[sniperhiga]

2500 signature links form 1 forum count like 1 for search engine. But it is good for traffic.
According my stat. i have about 5-30 daily visitors from 800 v7n posts.

Buy remember, i can get 20 visitors from 1 post only if it is a new quality post. If all posts was made 2 years ago... you can expect only 1-2 clicks.

Anyway, i don't like this idea and i think that people don't have to pay for this when they can do it by themselfs.

[theseokit]

Acftually sniperhinga, that is only partially true. In google that is the case but yahoo and msn it plays a much bigger role. Thats why people rank better in msn and yahoo then in google. The smaller two count every backlink unlike google where they only do top top top ones!

[chicgeek]

sniperhiga... sniperninja.. close enough.
Carry on.

[pctec]

I am of the opinion that if I have a limited amound of space I would be much further ahead to promote my own sites... not someone elses...

[theseokit]

I have other means to promote my own websites, thats why I wish I could offer my sig for sale, if I could I would probably have 1k+ posts in a week.

All good posts to not spam ones like most, on all other forums I get anywhere from 10.00 to 75.00 for a sig link for a year, depending how active I am in that forum.

[-MGS-]

Originally Posted by pctec

I am of the opinion that if I have a limited amound of space I would be much further ahead to promote my own sites... not someone elses...

I agree with you so much1 wjhy waste space on someone elses site?

[sniperhiga]

Originally Posted by theseokit

Acftually sniperhinga, that is only partially true. In google that is the case but yahoo and msn it plays a much bigger role. Thats why people rank better in msn and yahoo then in google. The smaller two count every backlink unlike google where they only do top top top ones!

Yeah... But MSN changed it a little. It used to be enought to get sitewide link from some forum or blog to get top positions for desired anchor but not anymore... MSN became more carefull about it.

Yahoo... it is hard to say. I have noticed this but it doesn't work like this all the time. yahoo index all links and it can show you that you have 50 000 indexed backlinks, but in reality it can be 49 real links and 49 951 links from the same forum (sitewide). I still love it because there is a chance to rank better in directories who sort websites according ammount of backlinks... it gives position on top of the directory, closer to homepage, and little better pagerank value.

Google don't count link from the same site and different pages twice unless it is subdomain like blogspot or 5gigs.

[Ferre]

Originally Posted by theseokit

Its to bad we cant sell sig links here, if we could I would post way more. Thats one of the main ways I make money, just needs rules like no certain type of sites in sig links...

Immoral. Selling signature links on other people's forums is the same as selling advertisement space on a billboard and putting that billboard on someone roof without permission from the owner of that roof.

It costs a lot of money, time and devotion to build a popular forum and to maintain it for those who own them and selling signature links is nothing but leeching on those people's hard work.

..but then again, sadly enough some people don't even know the concept of morals.

[sniperhiga]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Immoral. Selling signature links on other people's forums is the same as selling advertisement space on a billboard and putting that billboard on someone roof without permission from the owner of that roof.

It costs a lot of money, time and devotion to build a popular forum and to maintain it for those who own them and selling signature links is nothing but leeching on those people's hard work.

..but then again, sadly enough some people don't even know the concept of morals.

Wherever... i am really mad hearing about some SEO company. I really want to find who they are.

They spam my inbox with messages like this: "Can you please add our client website on your page URL (always different commercial sites which belong to real businesses). We friendly added your link on our other website"
With this message they present some links i added in the past to real established free directories which have the best reputation with DirectoryCritic.

I am really sad that they watch regular directories, pick sites which already listed hoping that webmaster doesn't know / forget about this listing and use it in their own benefit. If you know the name of this SEO company please tell me. I am 100%positive that they are rank well on Google because if to count how meny e-mails i recieved... they have a lot of clients.

[David E]

Selling sig links is like selling ure ass, I can see why people buy em but not why people sell em!

[mortgages]

Originally Posted by richardvan1

Its just a pet peeve of mine is all.

Same as people buying links in general.

Advertising is fine as its a marketing tool. But buying links to increase your sites SERP grrrr

I know allot of people do it and i have nothing against them personally. I just
feel that its like buying popularity, and there SERP.

Its kinda like high school.. those without money have hardly any friends.
Then theres the kids with money and they of course have all there followers and considerd popular.

Just dont sit right with me.

Maybe this new Google system that every one is all worked up about might do some good. Although its kinda googles fault for making it the way it is with there PR algorithm..

im done ranting for now

Nope, it's just buying advertising, the fact that it also works for SERPs is that the webmasters fault or the search engines?

Some sites I have derive 20% of their traffic from forums links. I have also sold some sig links on other forums for $100/year.

If someone can sell a company name written across their breasts, then a sig link is hardly worth the rant.

[Natural Elements]

Originally Posted by Ferre

Immoral. Selling signature links on other people's forums is the same as selling advertisement space on a billboard and putting that billboard on someone roof without permission from the owner of that roof.

It costs a lot of money, time and devotion to build a popular forum and to maintain it for those who own them and selling signature links is nothing but leeching on those people's hard work.

..but then again, sadly enough some people don't even know the concept of morals.

Ferre is right selling signature should be penalize and member removed from the forum !

What the people don't know; the cost of a forum software cost a lot of money, developing it, maintaining it also. At least the people must respect the investment of the forum owner.

Some people are immorals.

[civoc]

Selling signature links is business. Nothing wrong about it. There are forums they accept it and others don't. Good enough.

Forums also depend on posters and to get as many quality posts as possible or else the reputation may go down in no time.

What's wrong of selling ad-space by posters, who in fact partner with the forum owners for mutual benefit.

Google, yahoo, msn and all the others buy themselves into every crack that opens up. You guys need to learn about the power of advertising. When you are against it, don't do it. If this forums doesn't like it, also fine.

I know of people getting up to $ 150.00/per month for a sig link. Fine, brings also a lot of traffic to the advertiser.
Use adwords and you're bleeding.

[civoc]

Forgot to mention, since someone mentioned that he also wants a cut, means nothing else then greed is controling you whilst otherwise opposing it.

If you'd be clever, you'd install an auction tool and charge for that service, but you can't take away your posters benefits.

Of course, when I set up adwords or something alike it will affect pagerank also, since you're getting more traffic and I guess that is also a factor for PR.

Most of the peolpe who buy sig links on specific forums do it for traffic and believe it or not, it works. If I use my sig links myself I'd benefit too. We must also consider that most websites are not commercial and they also have costs to cover, but they maybe of a great value for your forums blog etc. It's a welcomed feature to help those to cover their costs.

[Natural Elements]

Signature link and post on forums have no value for PR. I would be interested to see the stats of traffic coming from a signature link, in my opinion this is a very low traffic.