People Selling links in forum signiture - Whats the deal?

richardvan1 · 04-25-2007, 09:32 PM

Just curious ...

I see alot of people selling link spots in there signature
most of them i see have over 2500 post count.

But still what benifit can one gain from purchasing these?

Yes i understand it will increase your link popularity but i wouldnt consider
them high quality links....

or are they?

good or bad ? whats your opinion?

joe-d · 04-25-2007, 09:44 PM

Well, a lot of people claims the following to be the benefits of a signature link:

1. Gives more backlinks and helps site gain PR
2. Help your site get crawled and indexed faster.
3. They can generate visitors.

I think they are good. A lot of people have proven the benefits of putting your link in a signature and they are willing to pay good money for it. I myself have a good number of posts in another forum and have been selling my signature links for $20-$35 each.

**Cricket** · 04-25-2007, 09:47 PM

Y'all know that isn't allowed here at the V7N, right?

richardvan1 · 04-25-2007, 09:55 PM

Oh of course, i would never and have never paid for links. Im a member of many forums. I just see this allot in advertising sections.

people claiming they have 2,500 or something post's and there selling back-links

1 guy i believe at iwebtool or maybe hostbidder , was selling a link in his signature for $600.

The thing is there was alot of people interested.. I dont understand it ..
I though it might be against a few forum guidlines and thanks Cricket for confirming it.

chicgeek · 04-26-2007, 07:43 AM

Just a note that if you see someone selling a V7N link on another forum to let us know.

richardvan1 · 04-26-2007, 10:44 AM

Sure thing...

Is this a general rule for most forums? or do some actually allow this ?

Personally if i had a popular forum and members were making $ off it i would be kinda upset ... unless i made a cut of course lol

look4edmund · 04-26-2007, 10:49 AM

Richard,

Too many people want shortcuts, these guys won't succeed.

Regards,
Edmund Ng

richardvan1 · 04-26-2007, 11:03 AM

Its just a pet peeve of mine is all.

Same as people buying links in general.

Advertising is fine as its a marketing tool. But buying links to increase your sites SERP grrrr

I know allot of people do it and i have nothing against them personally. I just
feel that its like buying popularity, and there SERP.

Its kinda like high school.. those without money have hardly any friends.
Then theres the kids with money and they of course have all there followers and considerd popular.

Just dont sit right with me.

Maybe this new Google system that every one is all worked up about might do some good. Although its kinda googles fault for making it the way it is with there PR algorithm..

im done ranting for now

**Cricket** · 04-26-2007, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardvan1

Its just a pet peeve of mine is all.

Same as people buying links in general.

Advertising is fine as its a marketing tool. But buying links to increase your sites SERP grrrr

I know allot of people do it and i have nothing against them personally. I just
feel that its like buying popularity, and there SERP.

Its kinda like high school.. those without money have hardly any friends.
Then theres the kids with money and they of course have all there followers and considerd popular.

Just dont sit right with me.

Maybe this new Google system that every one is all worked up about might do some good. Although its kinda googles fault for making it the way it is with there PR algorithm..

im done ranting for now

I too agree that signatures shouldn't be bought and sold because I feel it totally disrespects the forum owner.

However, in terms of your rant...

I am just curious. If you have small business owners (brick and mortar stores) in your town, and some can afford to advertise in the paper and the radio, and others can't, do you feel that is somehow unfair? How is offline any different than online in this regards?

Although I have never felt the need to buy links, but I don't see how it is really any different than buying advertising for your business.

richardvan1 · 04-26-2007, 12:15 PM

well its my opinion that theres a fine line to be drawn here...

Advertising by definition is to announce or praise (a product, service, etc.) in some public medium of communication in order to induce people to buy or use it:

This is necessary for any company to succeed.
I have a degree in marketing & business management so i know that money
can buy you anything that said...

Quote:

I am just curious. If you have small business owners (brick and mortar stores) in your town, and some can afford to advertise in the paper and the radio, and others can't, do you feel that is somehow unfair? How is offline any different than online in this regards?

They are advertising, which is a form of media publicity. Buying links is not advertising its a way to monopolize your target market. Almost how M$ is.
Which i dont think should be allowed. However search engine's such as google make this an easy thing to do.

**Cricket** · 04-26-2007, 12:30 PM

So if I buy a huge ad in the yellow pages that takes up over half the page and dominates the other people with just a company name and number within my market, is that unfair?

Aren't the yellow pages a bit like an offline search tool?

Have you considered that those folks that are investing in their business, worked for years at another job to save the money so that they could afford to do what it takes to make their small business successful?

richardvan1 · 04-26-2007, 01:01 PM

In a way yes the yellow pages are a little similer to Google SE however acording to market re-search people really only look at the top 10 results in google. if your ranked anywhere els your rarely seen or hardly clicked.

With the yellow pages it really is a poor example. As that is not the largest advertising medium and a fair offline example would meen a company would need to monopolize every advertising form and drop any ads after the top 10

Im not saying anything is write or wrong.

These are just my thoughts on the subject

I just dont think people should be able to buy there way to the top of SERP's
If they want to be on the top result's, they can eaither Pay Via google Ads to be in the sponcerd part of use traditional SEO.

trichnosis · 04-26-2007, 01:03 PM

Quote:

1. Gives more backlinks and helps site gain PR
2. Help your site get crawled and indexed faster.
3. They can generate visitors.

what is wrong with the signature links?

i agree with john on reply 2

i dont see any difference between a normal link and signature link.

Ewenement · 04-26-2007, 02:36 PM

Anyway, problems is that on some forums (like this one) you cannot change signature that is attached to all your posts - instead new signature is attached to your new posts, therefore saying that someone has 2500 posts does not matter until it's known on which forum, or to be precise: what kind of script uses forum, on which one has an account with 2500 posts.. 0o

But to be honest, these kind of links do not have much power.

*Ewenement

richardvan1 · 04-26-2007, 03:37 PM

Im not sure your write about the signatures like V7N i only added my site before my last post and as u see its now on all the above and all my other posts through out the forum

chicgeek · 04-27-2007, 08:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by richardvan1

Is this a general rule for most forums? or do some actually allow this ?

Yep. Some forums can't be bothered to enforce rules against it.

NothingButNet · 04-27-2007, 08:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chicgeek

Yep. Some forums can't be bothered to enforce rules against it.

I wonder... how can you prove that a signature link is sold and it doesn't belong to the original forum member?

chicgeek · 04-27-2007, 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NothingButNet

I wonder... how can you prove that a signature link is sold and it doesn't belong to the original forum member?

It is often advertised on other forums.

Pamil Visions · 04-27-2007, 09:05 AM

Lol! That was a good one. I was wondering myself how you are going to know.

-MGS- · 04-30-2007, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe-d

Well, a lot of people claims the following to be the benefits of a signature link:

1. Gives more backlinks and helps site gain PR
2. Help your site get crawled and indexed faster.
3. They can generate visitors.

I think they are good. A lot of people have proven the benefits of putting your link in a signature and they are willing to pay good money for it. I myself have a good number of posts in another forum and have been selling my signature links for $20-$35 each.

That it on the head... Many people just do it for the money. for me I do not do it, Want to promo my own sites not others!