Uniqueness, Duplicate Content and the Supplemental Index

[Johan007]

Matt Cutts is right. Some good pages get into the supplemental index and it is nothing to worry about.

John Scott is right. Dupe pages also get into the supplemental index and those dupes are however useless. Don't pars page rank and don't rank. I also believe they do suck page rank from your site.

Submitting articles to directories is indeed pointless unless you write for another site that you have targeted good link weight and relevance.

[GuyFromChicago]

Haven't bothered with article distribution in a long, long time. It's right up there on the worthless chart (from a backlink point of view) with press release sydication.

[bizman]

This is interesting, here is how Google describe it:

http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...e-content.html

[tdd1984]

The idea is to submit unique articles to all directories, so as new article directories come along write out a post and submit it with your link, before you know it you have 1000 links, lower end article directories will not hurt you at all!

What will hurt your rankings is black hat, and doing article submission to multiple new directories is not considered black hat, they are not going to go devaluing people sites for submitting to these article directories, they are going to credit you .

Submit your highest quality articles to sites like Webpronews, Ezinearticles, and etc. When you submit your articles to even the lower quality directories they show up in Goggle, and therefore you never know when your article could pop up, plus its a back link like a I was mentioning earlier.

Keep them unique!

[John Scott]

The idea is to submit unique articles to all directories

How unique is an article that appears verbatim on 1,000 sites?

[tdd1984]

Originally Posted by John Scott

How unique is an article that appears verbatim on 1,000 sites?

Make them on different topics and write different stuff out. What do you do when you write a blog post? Remember what you told me john? Be creative, then once that article set there for long enough, and if 6 years go by, who knows what the site turns out to be, it could just set for ever and age and your link be there.

In my opinion anyways it works great! Might not be the best link, but they do work very good, page rank just values the on site keywords if you ask me like words on the page and etc (which I know theres more to it then that), and of course gives your site more authority and page rank.

All this stuff about authority sites and etc I just believe that authority sites are old domains thats it, nothing special about them just old established sites, but in my opinion you can build a new site up with as much authority as a 1996 domain with proper liking, and surroundings, and I do not believe that lower end links, or lower end sites hurt your rankings, they do nothing but help.

Now I could understand if there was ffa pages, and things to that nature, but regardless Google is not what they make it out be be any ways (I'm not saying ffa pages are okay, cause there not), put it this I believe there system is on a ++, and no negatives at all the negatives is human edited (like when they penalize).

When I say ++ I mean you get credit for links from everywhere, but I'm not saying there okay to get from every where, but newer directories, and new articles can be a very great tactic, and also build up "authority" links too.

Typically I will only buy authority links if I'm getting direct traffic from them, and conversions, I'm not going to buy authority link just because its authority link mells well get one of them for free, or unless its a permanent payment then yea I'll buy it.

So basically if its not ++ positive movement, then I don't want anything to do with it.

Just my opinion john, but articles will help. Look at blog post, people write about anything, and thats the same thing about writing an article rather its why your neighbors wouldn't buy a website or the small business down the road, or the homeless guy that asked you how much a website was.(which of course a little bit better marketing then that).

[John Scott]

Just my opinion john, but articles will help.

Unique articles with embedded links will help. The same article on 1,000 websites in supplemental will not.

[peter_d]

Good advice from John. I concur.

It's not 1999 anymore. Garbage content, on garbage sites, and links from same, won't get anyone anywhere

Better to build a site people actually use. Those will be the only sites left standing in five years time.

[Red Dog]

Do we only talk about the SEO value of articles submitted to different directories? Are we really ignoring their marketing potential and the targeted traffic they might bring?

I have an article on “Growing Plants With LEDs” that still brings traffic and inquiries to the company I wrote it for. And this after 3 years already.

It really depends on the niche, the topic covered, and the quality of the information. I think we shouldn't exclude what might be a good marketing channel.

There is a good point in what John says: don't just scatter articles around the web. Submit them to niche related sites. They don't always need to be article directories to accept your work.

[WorldwideTrading]

Originally Posted by IndigoBlack

From what I understand as long as it was indexed on your blog first you will not be penalized for duplicate content.

If you submitted it to the article directory first and then put it on your blog it would benefit you to revise the article so that it is different enough from the original to be considered a different article.

I have a press release seciton on my main website. I wrote a press release and added it to our site. A few days later I submitted the PR to several press release directories. When I search for the title of my pr in quotes guess what. My sites pages are suplimental and the ones on higher PR press release sites arent. Go figure!

[Estreetloans]

I dont think that may pages have duplicate content yet they are considered supplemental. I typically dont see all my pages in a google search.

What do they consider "duplicate content" , or what is another reason a page would be supplemental?

You can perform a little experimant on my site and you'll see. I wouldnt consider some of my pages as supplemental but thats where they end up!

I dont get it

[coolguy27]

Thanks Sir John...I do believe that article submissions can lead to duplicate contents....as far as I know many SEO people nowadays don't rely on article submissions...myself included... Yes, it really helps in website promotion but the danger of duplication of contents is always there...

[Bluecircle]

So I guess if I write articles and put them on my site I shouldn't submit them to any article directories. That makes sense. But what about duplicate content between sites I own such as:

http://www.qualitytrafficsupply.com/guarantee.php

and

http://www.qualitypopunders.com/guarantee.php

That's generally the exact same content. I assume that it would only hurt me for people searching for "website traffic guarantee" and not the rest of my website. Would it be in my best interest to make sure there is no duplicate content anywhere in any of my sites?

[Mihai]

Originally Posted by John Scott

Unique articles with embedded links will help. The same article on 1,000 websites in supplemental will not.

As simple as it may sound, John is perfectly correct. One piece of unique article in an article directory of your choice with embedded links pointing to your website will help. The same article in the 2nd article directory will destroy the value of being unique, guaranteed.

[Aussie]

Just want to say that this is a great thread, especially in light of recent questions I've had thrown at me lately.

I had said (instinctively) that links are good, but mass submission of the same thing is bad, but that I would check to make sure.

The questions also related to those paid-to-blog submissions and how the money received is slave labour because they will get that returned in clicks in a few days.

It's good to know I can let them know there are others that have experience in the SEO field that concur.

[chodirin]

my blog was supplemental result by google. how to solve this problem?

[srinisaripalli]

All contents are some way related to something published elsewhere. Usage of themes should not stand as a barrier for expressing one's own thoughts.

[ppc-han]

thank you for that nice information about article submission. it really help me in aquiring quality backlinks.

[RollOver]

thanx for the info, wht abt the links in the article or press release we submit? wont we get any back links or any chance to rank for those keywords?

[johnsunvalley]

to avoid those dup content. you can make some changes for your article then submit it to the directories.