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Old 06-19-2007, 04:29 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Is Anchor Text SEO Dead after the Google Bomb Detonation?

Dear forum,

I have heard that using too much of same anchor text over several sites can rank you low. I heard that Google is deliberately pushing these results 30+ rank in SERPs.

If this is true, then is the Anchor Text SEO dead?

Does any one know how we can overcome this affect?

Due to this fact, i have changed my signature from this:

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Please suggest me if this is necessary.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:44 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This is not true. Personal experience with my clients' sites.

Let me explain. 1 listing in DMOZ = thousands of links (if not even more) with same anchor text.
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Old 06-19-2007, 10:34 AM   #3 (permalink)
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IMO.. its not true.
content is fine if its keep to natural writing.

if a seo site, keep mentioning seo term, and get place far behin in serp.
belief lots of people will not found the big seo site.

anchor text still play important role. without this, your site cant ranked on the keyword
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Old 06-19-2007, 02:05 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just mix it up.... don't keep using the same anchor for everything. For instance have your signature here at v7n be one version of your keywords and your signature over at the other webmaster forums - make them use a different set of keywords.

If your link building, [you better be] change up your anchor every month > then switch your anchor back to the primary target a couple months later.
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Old 06-19-2007, 04:26 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Anchor text still one of big point than a content. use many backlink with anchor text as main keyword target is still OK. No doubt
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Old 06-19-2007, 06:32 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Dear forum,

I have heard that using too much of same anchor text over several sites can rank you low. I heard that Google is deliberately pushing these results 30+ rank in SERPs.

If this is true, then is the Anchor Text SEO dead?

Does any one know how we can overcome this affect?

Due to this fact, i have changed my signature from this:

Asif Anwar
Color Experts International (CEI)
Clipping Path (Photoshop Masking) & Professional Graphics Design Outsourcing Services at Low Price

to this:

Asif Anwar - www.asifanwar.7p.com
Color Experts International (CEI) - www.colorexpertsbd.com
Clipping Path (Photoshop Masking) & Professional Graphics Design Outsourcing Services at Low Price

Please suggest me if this is necessary.
Yes and no, just keep pushing for more, but yes mix them up but make them look naturual depends on how you do it.

let me ask you this?

are they going to devalue your keyword because it has your company name in it every time? or your domain name?

No, so keep plugging your keywords, but mix them up
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:44 AM   #8 (permalink)
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Yes and no, just keep pushing for more, but yes mix them up but make them look natural depends on how you do it.

let me ask you this?

are they going to devalue your keyword because it has your company name in it every time? or your domain name?

No, so keep plugging your keywords, but mix them up
I do agree with you. It is quite weird if the Visitor is searching with your company name as keyword and every time finding that company in 31st result. And I understand that no Search Engine will do that. In that sense I also like the clarification by janhvizdak.
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Old 06-20-2007, 02:29 PM   #9 (permalink)
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I do agree with you. It is quite weird if the Visitor is searching with your company name as keyword and every time finding that company in 31st result. And I understand that no Search Engine will do that. In that sense I also like the clarification by janhvizdak.
I probably shouldn't be saying this, but let me tip you off on something that I know is a fact and i won't tell who told me or what was said, but google is not as accurate as you think, I am a programmer.

I have a few good connections , what Google is really concerned about is cloaking, and serious black hat techniques , and other things like redirect for unrelated keywords and stuff like that, not someone putting there company name in the anchor text over and over.

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You need anchor text in the inbound links, but it should vary - try synonyms, similar words, variations of the phrase, etc. The search engines will only discount the links if you have 1000's with the same exact phrase. The words should appear on the page in some version as that's one of their tests now. Try to simulate natural linking...When people link naturally to a site, it would be impossible for them all to use the same anchor text. Those are the red flags that search engines look for.
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It can't be dead. I'm starting to rank for some of that anchor text out there.
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werd. viva la anchor!
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It can't be dead. I'm starting to rank for some of that anchor text out there.
Yeah, it's not dead, it just needs to be natural and varied.
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So its prob. best to use quite a few anchor text links, perhaps about 10 or 20?
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Well what google bomb was that thousands and thousands of people linked to whitehouse.org with an anchor "misreable failure".. obviously it didn't consisted that term on the whole page...but it ranked to the top! A tweak in the Google algo now necessitates that the anchor text you are using must be found on your page...

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So its prob. best to use quite a few anchor text links, perhaps about 10 or 20?
More like a few thousand. all of your inbound links should be anchor text, or as many as possible. but you have to mix it up.
Don't make , like say, all of your forum sig's the same in every forum.
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Keyword must be found in the webpage..........

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Well what google bomb was that thousands and thousands of people linked to whitehouse.org with an anchor "misreable failure".. obviously it didn't consisted that term on the whole page...but it ranked to the top! A tweak in the Google algo now necessitates that the anchor text you are using must be found on your page...

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Previously many pages had good ranks without having the keyword in their pages due to excessive inbound link with the same keyword as anchor texts. I think that's good thing.
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Yes and not!
1) Not! Anchor text is still powerfull way to increase ranking and many of us can see it.
2) Yes! When you target keywords which doesn't match your content and website topic.
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I have not experienced this personally, although I do try to work in several variations of anchor text when link building (all eggs in one basket and all!)
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