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Old 08-14-2007, 02:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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People who are good at SEO - Please, HELP ME! I am in DESPAIR

Hi everyone, I am Olga, new to SEO, am working as a web promoter for 2 weeks ( I have never been engaged in this type of activity before) and it seems I have very big problems, I can't find the way out, I am in despair and I am completely lost - feel like killing myself for such a mistake!
I read in a SEO book that to bring visitors to your site you can post a weird message on forums, and place the url of the site you are promoting, and people will read this f..ing message and visit your web. I have done, placed a message with adult content, very bizarre and foolish and now I am suffering from my own foolishness. I found out then that the site I am promoting can be banned for such matter. What is to be done? Or there is no way out? I feel sick from making such a mistake....

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Old 08-14-2007, 04:28 AM   #2 (permalink)
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OK, OK. One step at a time, these things usually seem worse than they really are.

Tell me if any of this is wrong:

You are promoting a site, which is not adult.

You put a message on a lot of forums which said 'xxx porn adult stuff click here" and linked to the site you're promoting.

Yes, this could be very mildly problematic, but you say it's only been two weeks so if you contact the moderators or forums owners, tell them your mistake and ask them to remove your messages, most of it shouldn't be registered.

It's also possible that some of the forums don't pass on link power so that could help.

Start by contacting the places where you left the messages, that's a good start. If you didn't do this too many times I don't see it being a problem.

The thing to remember is, it is very VERY difficult to harm a site by linking to it, however you link to it. If it was damaging, competitors would be doing it to each other all the time. No, the big trouble-maker is where you link OUT from your site, be very careful about where you link to from your site, but links going IN are something you shouldn't worry that much about. I don't think there's any chance of you getting banned.

You may rank for some weird mix of 'porn and your site topic' keywords though - could be embarrassing.
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Old 08-14-2007, 05:23 AM   #3 (permalink)
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thank you, Rankenstein

The message I put was somethink like this (it is a stupid message, I agree, am embarrassed by it, but nevertheless - I am promoting a site concerning wedding invitations): I fell in love with a SUMo coach-woman, I am going to marry her, but I am a transvestite and she doesnt know about it - what should I do? and then - visit the site www. for more details - bla-bla-bla. I agree, a stupid idea of me. And the more stupid is that I don't remember on which forums I put it (I got many replies on the weird message I placed - the one was Aha, you are "black SEO:, I will ban you") - from that message I could hardly burst into tears.

Thanks Rankenstein for Your help, I really need someone to consult with, as I am 24 years old, worked as a translator all my life, and now i am mastering this new activity)

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Old 08-14-2007, 06:52 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I got many replies on the weird message I placed - the one was Aha, you are "black SEO:, I will ban you") - from that message I could hardly burst into tears.
That would probably be from a forum administrator, meaning he'll ban you from the forum....but so what? If you don't remember the forums you did it on, they're not so important to you. Apologise maybe, but move on. Yeah, you made a mistake but you know it, and more importantly, you've almost immediately had what I consider the most important lesson in SEO: it's as much about knowing what NOT to do, as knowing what to do.

Anyhow, for guidance there's a great resource here:
http://www.v7n.com/forums/seo-forum/...o-v7n-way.html
Part 5 will be of particular interest to you, but it's all good.

So, Olga, as I said before, don't worry because I can't imagine for one second that you'll get a ban from this.

P.S. I want to know more about the transvestite marrying the sumo coach woman
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:21 AM   #5 (permalink)
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calm down.

start with your website. before you can hope to bring traffic into your site, see if the layout and design and text content is really good.

you want people lingering in your site, not just clicking it then going away soon.

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:28 AM   #6 (permalink)
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In most of the forums, subscription is by default. So you will get emails if someone replies to it. In this way will be easy to trace out the posts. Anyways as mentioned by RANK... it isn't that bad what you thought. So next time it will be a wise action to double check what you read before implementing it. There are quite niche blogs and sites which talks about white hat SEO. Such as seobook, seochat, seomoz etc. ATB
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:29 AM   #7 (permalink)
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thanks Rankenstein, thousand times, you calmed me down ooof, I feel relieved. Nothing interesting about the sumo coach - i just wrote it as a question - i am a transvestite wishing to marry a sumo coach, but she doesn;t know my secret (that i am a trans), what should i do? )
I see You are good at SEO, are You promoting something too?) Or who are You? a webmaster?

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Old 08-14-2007, 07:34 AM   #8 (permalink)
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I'm an SEO, have been for nearly ten years.

The transvestite should order two wedding dresses, that's what he should do.
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Old 08-14-2007, 07:35 AM   #9 (permalink)
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))) yep i guess so too, is it hard to do SEO? i mean professionally? not the way i do? )
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is it hard to do SEO? i mean professionally?
I wouldn't say it's hard exactly, but it takes time, it's rather repetitive and you have to be confident. You also have to know what a site's chances are to rank well - some site owners you can tell there's no reason why they can't rank for almost anything they want in their area of business. Others you have to tell that they should set their sights lower. Depends on the site, and the site owner's desire to make necessary changes.
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Well said Rankenstein. Totally agreed.
But it's the most difficult thing for most of the professionals to get it done - onpage optimization, unless they have full authority for the particular site.
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didn't grasp the idea....may be it's too early for me to do it
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better to promote the website which content you are specialist in - guitars or rock music for instance
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By the way you've got the right choice of registering in this forum.... You can have a lot of help here....

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cool, i found it for the first time....
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and I wonder - if I use relevant content forums to promote my web, can i place hyperlink to my web in a message or i will be banned too and have problems?

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