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08-19-2007, 11:14 PM
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Top 10 SEO Mistakes
1. Unethical SEO Consultants :
Nowadays, u can see many Companies providing SEO services. Some SEO guys use purely ethical SEO techniques, while others use unethical SEO. Even the person who hired the SEO guy do not know about this. When his site get punished that time he came to know.
So the conclusion is, if you want to hire SEO, choose a reputable SEO consultant, one who will keep in regular contact with progess reports and updates.
2.Use of black-hat techniques :
Same as i mentions above, techniques such as doorway pages, stuffing keywords, hidden text etc are the examples of black-hat tech. So if you want long term success, avoid such techniques.
3.Expecting Immediate Results :
you wil never get immediate results in SEO. You must have patience in you. Succesful SEO requires good link building which takes time. SO you must agree to spend lots of time with good patience.
4.In-house optimization :
In past even now also many people think, they can do SEo their own. They feel SEO is an easy task to do.
But SEO is not that much easy. It involves undrstanding google's complicated algo. and according to that they have to optimize the site to rank well in SEs.
5.Untargeted keywords :
Many times some SEO ignore main keywords and only work for untargeted keywords. After getting good rankings, if they dont get enough traffic, they complain about that.
So they have to choose right keywords for optimization which give them good traffic.
6.Unneccessary graphics and flash :
Many webdesigners, just for good looking of sits put heavy graphics and flash in site. As you know crawlers dont crawl graphics or flash. So avoid putting havy flash or graphics on site instead put combination of small graphics / flash with good amount of unique content.
7.non-relevant link :
As you know if you have more backlinks, chances of getting good ranking in google increased. But many SEOs just count irrelevant links as a backlinks. They dont care whether the backlinks coming from are relevant with their site or not. Google dont consider such links.
8.Multiple SE submission :
Nowadays search engine submission is not necessary. Sites get indexed and ranked naturally if they have related backlinks with them. Multiple submissions may consider as an attempt to spam the search engines.
9.Title tag :
We can see many title tags of different sites have their company or product name. But recommended is you shoud place your main keywords or keyphrases in title tag. Also keep title tag less than 65 character long.
10.All search engines are not same :
Many people think all search engines are same. Optimize your content, keywords, links so that there is something for at least one of the three top search engines.
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08-19-2007, 11:29 PM
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I think in house optimization is good if you have a good seo expert which is paid with a good amount of money.
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08-19-2007, 11:47 PM
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hi..
in-house optimization means optimization done by the person who dobt know or know little about SEO.
Ofcourse if you hire an SEO expert who is ready to do in-house opti is good.
Thanks
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08-20-2007, 12:34 AM
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thanks for the info.. very useful.
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08-20-2007, 03:52 AM
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About the inhouse seo, how about when you don't have the money to pay someone for seo? I am learning it step by step, but as soon as I am making enough money with it all ( through my sites ) I will hire someone to do it... how would you go with this?
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08-20-2007, 05:03 AM
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Nice contribution... keep it up...
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08-20-2007, 06:03 AM
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Good list. I'd add "Duplicate content" - and lack of "good / original content" to the list.
Thanks for sharing. 
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08-20-2007, 06:23 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Klaas Koopman
About the inhouse seo, how about when you don't have the money to pay someone for seo? I am learning it step by step, but as soon as I am making enough money with it all ( through my sites ) I will hire someone to do it... how would you go with this?
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Hi,
I agree with u.
But the problem is, i am not sure that someone who is learning SEO put all the correct things in their site.
I mean you may get wrong by putting something wrong.
And the results you know getting banned etc.
So if you are learning SEO and doing in-house, its doesnt matter. But apply right things. Do lots of reasearch, ask many things in forums only after that apply those into your site.
Just dont apply the things because others are saying they are correct.
I hope you understood the point what i mean to say.
Thanks
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08-20-2007, 07:03 AM
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many thx for the info 
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08-20-2007, 10:49 PM
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nice discussion.
Thanks for this information.
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08-22-2007, 02:28 PM
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Nice contribution very useful
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08-22-2007, 03:12 PM
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SEO is dead, just get some good inbound links and build a quality web site.
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08-22-2007, 03:45 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by janegrath
4.In-house optimization :
In past even now also many people think, they can do SEo their own. They feel SEO is an easy task to do.
But SEO is not that much easy. It involves undrstanding google's complicated algo. and according to that they have to optimize the site to rank well in SEs.
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Interesting. Do you think if SEO is outsourced, it will be better? I've dealt with more than 4 SEO agencies in the past. None of them barely understood SEO. I was frightened by their self proclaimed expertize which in reality meant nothing. It's very risky and there are a lot of fraud happening.
I am a firm believer in in-house SEO. It's better to keep your trade secrets under the one roof even though, it may cost you more in the short term. In a long run, it justifies itself.
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08-22-2007, 04:03 PM
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my onpage SEO efforts have been quite minimal. Aside from your basic tags, keywords, etc. I haven't done much.
most of my effort is just focused on building links, mostly through article marketing. it's worked well so far
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08-22-2007, 07:54 PM
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In-house SEO may be considered a mistake, but without starting there I wouldn't be where I am. Making the mistakes of a n00b as an in-house SEO (back in the day) taught me more than forums, though that may be because they weren't as prevalent then.
It also may be because I am pig-headed. Heh.
I tell my kids "Don't touch. HOT." over and over, but they only really learn when they've burnt their hand.
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08-22-2007, 08:46 PM
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7.non-relevant link :
As you know if you have more backlinks, chances of getting good ranking in google increased. But many SEOs just count irrelevant links as a backlinks. They dont care whether the backlinks coming from are relevant with their site or not. Google dont consider such links.
Sorry, what do you mean by not consider?
Are you saying that if i only have 10,000 pr7 links that are not from relevent sites and not even 1 link from a relevent site so google will look at it like i have no links at all ?!?!
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08-22-2007, 10:09 PM
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nice list...that will help people know what things they must not do...or at least you already listed those 10 that they should not do...
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08-22-2007, 10:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfredito
7.non-relevant link :
As you know if you have more backlinks, chances of getting good ranking in google increased. But many SEOs just count irrelevant links as a backlinks. They dont care whether the backlinks coming from are relevant with their site or not. Google dont consider such links.
Sorry, what do you mean by not consider?
Are you saying that if i only have 10,000 pr7 links that are not from relevent sites and not even 1 link from a relevent site so google will look at it like i have no links at all ?!?!
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Hi,
No i havent say that if u are having 10,000 PR7 links, then google will consider no links.
What i want to say is google will not give that much importance to those which he will give to that site having 100 links with high PR and relevant content.
In brief :
The most important factor determining the quality of backlink is Relevancy. When we say that a particular site relevant to our site, means the site is content rich and the theme is relevant to our site.
This relevnacy gives more weightage by SEs.
Relevant links carry more significance than high PR irrelevant links. So high PR doen not guarntee high position in SEs. The chances for a low PR link for a site to get high ranking thana high PR link is more.
Thanks
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08-23-2007, 12:42 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cornbread
SEO is dead, just get some good inbound links and build a quality web site.
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Is SEO really dead?  What do you mean by that?
getting inbound links is still offpage SEO.... 
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08-23-2007, 12:52 PM
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This is the cruel true. The links are the main SE traffic factor.
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