Using google

[Cricket]

Originally Posted by work2bfree

It all seems too complicated for me right now. I think I am going to wait on this later down the road. Also, at this time, I don't have the funds to get a SEO to help me. So, I'll just wait until my business can afford me more options of advertising.

thanks for sharing...

You can learn to do all of this yourself. Start here . . .
http://www.v7n.com/forums/seo-forum/...o-v7n-way.html

[Steven_D]

Originally Posted by work2bfree

Right now ScareYou, money is very tight. I agree that $49.00 is a reasonable amount but I just spent a lot of money on some other things, so I am going to have to hold off here. I do very much appreciate you help. I will keep this in mind. Maybe next month, I will pay the $49.00.

If you dont have around $1000 dollars to spend on some decent advertising, dont bother, just stick with the blogspot because it will take you months to build up enough PR2 and PR3 back links to get your site moved to a PR2 where you can start selling add space, then its another 6 months of pushing, and backlinking, and article writing and yada yada to get any decent resemblance of a site that makes any real money.

1K
$299 for Yahoo Dir (Should be a must for every single webwite owner serious about getting somewhere) Its not just about the PR or the SERP, they 299 gives you a listing in a directory that you will get a substancial amount of traffic from. + and you will all say its BS (Thats your right after all) but you will get a better result in the search pages if you have a yahoo directory, its that simple.

$250 for some 12 month PR5 adds, or maby $350 for a site wide add on some PR4 sites for 12 months.

$100 to pay someone to manually submit your site to a few thousand directories.

$250 for some decent hosting and a domain name for 12 months (And i mean decent hosting not that freakn free or $9.99 a yeah BS.

Then get your google adalytics set up properly

Then spend the rest of the money on piss to pass the time while you wait for the hits to come in.

Alternatively you can do work online for money, i do heaps of coding for people over the internet, helping them with problems they are having, or building small applications or database applications, i only charge a few hundred bucks for a few days work and i just do it when i am super board and have nothing else to do.

Failing all of the above. Take your 1K, spend it on type domains, and other dumb domains, park them @ go daddy and put up adsense etc and hope that somone doesnt come and blow you up lol. Hate those MFA sites.

anyways, seriously think about it, sooooooo much work to get a mediocre site, making mediocre money, and your a software developer so you cant be earning less than $80 an hour in the real world. dont throw it away for the ability to work in your slippers, its totaly overrated

[tbarr]

Look around for people selling directory submission services. I used a guy recommended on a forum, he had a list of directories that did well SERP and traffic wise and he did submissions at $0.14 per directory (for $0.05 you could get a follow up report).

Also, you should get into DMOZ just make sure you find the active directories, look at all directories that look like they make a good match for your site and select one that has a recent "Last updated" date as shown at the bottom of the page.

[Steven_D]

i paid $1 via paypal got entered in 30 directories, got every single one of the Thanks for entering emails got accepted into a couple of them within 24 hours, incl a listing on a PR2 page.

Was happy so 2 days ago spent $6 via paypal for 200 submissions, for the last 48 hours i have been receiveing the thanks for submitting emails from directories, and been accepted into at least 10 so far. really pleased tbh.

[work2bfree]

Thanks everyone for the great information. I will have to work on my url submission a little bit more; and hunt around. Steven_D, what company did you pay your $1.00 for your directory submission? Also, Steven_D, you are correct, I do make a good living as a software developer. But, the stress level of it is killing my stomach; I have been doing this for 15 to 16 years. I am really ready to move on. I am trying to hang on for as long as I can, but am just a step away from a bleeding ulcer. The technology industry has really changed since I came on board. It used to be fun; now it is just all work and no play. Just get the work done as quickly as possible. It's gotten old now.

Thanks for sharing...

[Steven_D]

Originally I got $1USD for 30, he sent me the report and i got some really listings really quickly, like was all done in less than 24 hours, and about 5 approvals the next day.

So i went and Paid $6USD for 200, and for the last 48 hours i have been getting email after email, thanks for submitting blah blah, and i have been accepted on like 25+ lists already lol.

The guy is a freakn maching + you can pay a bit more and get like reports and shit.

Note: I dont know the guy, i take no responsibility if he doesnt perform for you. Im not affiliated or related to him. + im only plugging him because work2bfree asked. And also partially because of that other forum, everyone saying they got riped of (BL to them lol) so this is just the notes of someone who didnt rip me off

This is the link, but incase it gets deleted ill post the auctual price list thing aswell.

http://www.namepros.com/for-sale-adv...-starting.html

Ok, here are various submission packages, we are offering.


Without Report:

* 30 Directory Submissions - $1
* 100 Directory Submissions - $3
* 200 Directory Submissions - $6
* 300 Directory Submissions - $9
* 400 Directory Submissions - $12
* 500 Directory Submissions - $15
* 1000 Directory Submissions - $30

With Complete Report regarding, Directory's URL, PR and Category


* 30 Directory Submissions - $2
* 100 Directory Submissions - $6
* 200 Directory Submissions - $12
* 300 Directory Submissions - $18
* 400 Directory Submissions - $24
* 500 Directory Submissions - $30
* 1000 Directory Submissions - $50

With Screen Shots + Complete Report regarding, Directory's URL, PR and Category

We'll also provide you with screen shots of the page after we fill out all details to make sure we do manual submissions. Cost of this package is

* 30 Directory Submissions - $4
* 100 Directory Submissions - $12
* 200 Directory Submissions - $24
* 300 Directory Submissions - $36
* 400 Directory Submissions - $48
* 500 Directory Submissions - $60
* 1000 Directory Submissions - $97


Slow and Natural Directory Submission

We can also submit your website slowly so that it looks natural to search engines. We'll submit your website once a week. We'll also send you report every week.

* 30 Directory Submissions - $6
* 100 Directory Submissions - $12
* 200 Directory Submissions - $33
* 300 Directory Submissions - $45
* 400 Directory Submissions - $66
* 500 Directory Submissions - $80
* 1000 Directory Submissions - $100


Slow Directory Submission Service (with Screenshots and Excel Sheet Report ):


* 30 Directory Submissions - $12
* 100 Directory Submissions - $24
* 200 Directory Submissions - $60
* 300 Directory Submissions - $85
* 400 Directory Submissions - $115
* 500 Directory Submissions - $150
* 1000 Directory Submissions -$200


We need the following information

Your FUll Name
Url of your website
Title: You can provide upto 8 Titles ( we know the importance of different anchor texts as far as it is concerned to search engines)
Description of your website( one upto 250 characters and another upto 500)
Category of your website (upto 3 related to your site)
Primary keywords of the website
Confirmation Email. (It would be better if it is from the same domain of your site. Because some directories reject the submission if the mail is from other domain)


Payment via Paypal / NP only

If you want to find him he is on the namepros.com forum with the user name arnold123, just do a search for posts from arnold123 and the thread is called '100% Quality, Manual Directory Submissions Starting From $1'

he has heaps of threads about stumbling and traffic etc.

I will also email you his email address since you asked so nicely, + seen im a nice guy (rofl) if you PM me your email address, i will send you some of the info from my site that I normally sell, i have some info about your RAS that might help you.

Also, re software programming and your tummy, my now ex girlfriend was the same with her work, she was stressed and upset and eventually left before she beceause to sick to work and i have my own two cents lol.

I went from jail and rehab @ 18 (supply of morphine and weed) to retired @ 23, broke @ 24, retired again @ 27. And I never once got sick or stressed, and I have had things go wrong for me all the time, and been near and virtually in bankruptcy twice.

I always figure, its best to let things happen, and just see what I can learn from them and use that info to not make the same mistake twice. And I would never do something that I wouldnt enjoy or derive satisfaction from.

Its not about where your going or how it is when you get there, its about the ride

Personally I reakn that if software development is messing with your tummy, that trying to make a living on the net will be harder because you compete with all these liars and people not doing their shit right, and its frustrating, but clients aka people dont know the difference between a scam and a real company.

If i was you, id put my health first, think about what you want to do personally, and just do it. If want you want is the same as everyone else, money, just have the right expectation,

there is no easy way, even the people who made things like youtube.com and made 600 Mill took a risk, and spent time on something they didnt know would work and for every company that makes lots of money there are 1000 that dont.

Think that making money will take you 2 years, draw up a two year plan for your site (online business blog thing)

Write down, goals etc, then spend every spare minute you have doing it, and see if you can reach your two year goal in 1 year or less. But expect it will take ages, because then you wont get discouraged after 2 months and quit and you will outlast all the other people who expected to make a quick buck.

And ill tell you what, if you write up a small 5 page doco about the goals and expectations and earning etc about your bloggo, then email it to me, and i will assess it, make suggestions and show you where you can make more money. I use to do that for a living. + its always good to have an unbiased opinion on your project.

[work2bfree]

Thank you Steven_D. I think my stomach problems come from the bad manager and coworkers that I have had to deal with for quite a while. I was downsized 3 almost 4 times. I used to make over 100,000 a year now make far less. I don't like the rules and regulations of a job environment, dress code, how long you can go to lunch, when you can take a vacation and so on and so forth. I am not good at following rules and regulations. I have always been considered a difficult employee partly because of this. I am also a night person, not a morning person. I love working from home. I actually perform quite well working at home. I have been involved in trying to establish a business of my own for the past 4 years. I am good at it and wish to do it full time. I also have a real estate business part-time and you talk about headaches. What I am trying to say is that I am a better fit for having my own business. I am not a good fit for working for other people. When I was working from home for about 6 months, I really enjoyed it. Even the stress of it did not upset my stomach. I dealt with irate customers all the time, again no pain in my stomach. And the good thing is that when I did not feel well, I didn't work. I was able to tend to my health whereas with the jobs, now you have to accrue sick time; meaning I can't take the time off unless I have the time; which I think is ridiculous. I have asthma and during certain times in the season my asthma acts up. Well one of my coworkers went off on me telling me that I should have stayed home; that I was infecting others. I had to explain to him that it is just my asthma, which is not contagious, I also went off on him and told him that my company does not allow me to have the sick time off unless I have the time and since I don't have the time, I am not taking it off. If people get sick, talk to my bosses. Anyway, I could go on and on about the why I want to quit my job. It is the poor managers, coworkers, traffic, lack of sick time, lack of vacation time, spend more time at work and not enough time with family. I enjoy working from home and I am working hard at trying to get home to be with my family and spend more time with friends. I know it can happen. I know people who are currently doing it and there is nothing special about these people. Even I am surprised at how these individuals accomplished the millionaire status because not all of them are all that bright, but they hung in there and did the deal. As for my goals, I actually have them written in my book, but I am on a training call right now and working hard at trying to finish this post so that I can start participating in the call. When I come back to this forum, I'll give them to you. I actually have 25 of them along with the deadlines of when I think they will be completed.

[Steven_D]

sounds like you have valid reasons for wanting to get into working from home, and its not just an addiction to lazyness as seems to be the case for most people.

Might be better to pm your goals to me, of they are like mine some people will be like, you cant do that, and that will never happen + goals are semi private things.

Ill pm you a login for my site so you can read about the RAS (its the part of the brain that controls motivation)

Also, you are going to need to decide how much money it is that you need to make to live comftably (This includes saving for retirement, putting some money in a savings account, some money into the stock exchange and some money into property, ontop of food rent clothes and taxes)

then you have to pick a higher number which is how much you would like to be earning (You dont have to be realistic, i doubt bill gates was realsitic when he was thinking about how much money he wanted to earn)

Once you have the amount you want to earn, its starts gettgin a lot easier, because you can just compare each idea that you have to your goals, and see,

If I do A, I will Earn B and B IS / IS NOT enough to meet my goal,

and you can keep looking. This stops you from getting involved in things which although may have a chance of success, even if they are sucessful, wont give you the money you are looking for.

The third thing you will need to do, it think how you are going to help people, what need are your going to fulfill?

once you have those three things you really have nothing stoping you except your self,

1. Money Goal, How Much, how often (So you know if your on the right track)
2. Is what your doing / looking at going to catapult you towards that amount, if not time to start brain storming.
3. How many people are you going to need to help, and what need will you try and fulfill.

I always found that once I had this infomation drawn up on my ras poster that my subconscious would identify opportunites for me, and all I had to do was select which one. Ways of making money are all around us every day, you just have to be looking.

Also re

"I know people who are currently doing it and there is nothing special about these people. Even I am surprised at how these individuals accomplished the millionaire status because not all of them are all that bright"

intelligence has absolutly nothing to do with getting rich. Personally I feel the longer you go to school and university, the more specialised your education becomes the less chance you have of making money. You have to be able to think outside the box, and university teaches you nothing but whats in the box.

Take programming for instance, you learn C+ and you become the programmer, then few years later its VB, then ASP, then PHP, you get better at coding, and maby one day you will be project manager (150K) but thats not rich or even close. The person who gets rich is the guy who isnt sitting in a cubical and his brain is ticking along and he realises that if he has a website where people can upload videos and other people can watch them he will fill a basic human need, to be the centre of attention. So he makes a dev site, and gets programmers to maintain it, the programmers get 100K each, he gets 600 Mill, not hard to think which one your would rather be, not hard @ all.

[Mike Morrison]

Hi
I have found deep links from blogger and blogspot get found very quickly by google....

I have several blogs running and for the first week of registration published one article per day - then once a week
of course the feeds to these were listed on feedburner and several other blog listings - much easier to do that
Then make sure each article has at least 2 links to your site (deep) and one to a third party site - I use wikipedia and other educational sites rather than other competitor sites...
Works for me - 0- page 1 in 3 weeks with google... PR of 3-4 within 3 minths

[pinkfluffybunny]

Lawren,

looked at your site. You need to think about who you are targeting and target them.

"healthy coffee" isn't exactly going to bring in your targeted group.....lol

Getting registered isn't your problem....

[~DaRk-EyE~]

Continuous site promotion is one of key for you to be able to keep up a good competition...
Know your target and try to give them what they are looking for...

[pinkfluffybunny]

DMOZ's usefulness died a long time ago.

[arturobraganza]

Google directory is good but takes time to be accepted

[MrCat]

Lawren,

I understand where you're coming from. I myself have been in that same predicament and have settled for free marketing campaigns in the past. What would really matter is how well you are reaching your target market.

Your blog is about Coffee. Now which market would you be targeting? Who do you think are coffee lovers? You have this in your blog:

Young adults are the fastest-growing segment of coffee drinkers according to the 2007 “National Coffee Drinking Trends”, a report by the National Coffee Association. Thirty-seven percent of those 18-to-24 years old report drinking coffee, up from 31 percent of respondents in that age bracket in 2006 and 26 percent in 2005.

In the 25 to 29 age group, 44 percent report they are coffee drinkers down from 47 percent in the prior year.

Of the respondents between 40 and 59, 61 percent are coffee drinkers, up from 59 percent in 2006.

And older consumers are the greatest coffee drinkers, 74 percent of those 60 and over said they were in 2007 up from 73 percent in 2006.

Now where can you reach them? Forums? Yahoo groups or the likes? - Work on this and you will be on the right track. Traffic from Google is very good but it would be nicer if you could reach them directly.

This is just one market you could reach as I see you have other affiliate products you are advertising on your blog. Best of luck to you!