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work2bfree · 08-30-2007, 07:47 PM

One of the methods I recently learned to increase visitations to my website was to submit my url to directories. I was looking for something out there that would allow me to do this to multiple directories. Instead, I was told to just submit to Google directory becasue all of the other search engines and spiders go to google anyway. So, this is what I have started doing. What is our opinion? Is this a good or bad thing?

**Cricket** · 08-30-2007, 08:18 PM

I think maybe you mean DMOZ as that is what Google uses to create their directory.

But no. That is not enough.
You still need to actively promote your site and work on increasing your incoming links.

janegrath · 08-30-2007, 10:11 PM

hi,
yes, DMOZ listing is very important. But at the same time its not that much easy to get listed in DMOZ.

And if you wait for DMOZ listing, your chances of getting indexed by various SEs are very less.

So till you get listed in DMOZ, why dont you try some other directories?

Thanks,

zibblu · 08-30-2007, 11:04 PM

You could be waiting for years (or a lifetime) for that DMOZ listing. Sure go ahead and put it up... but then move on and forget about it.

www.errorforum.com · 08-31-2007, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by work2bfree

One of the methods I recently learned to increase visitations to my website was to submit my url to directories. I was looking for something out there that would allow me to do this to multiple directories. Instead, I was told to just submit to Google directory becasue all of the other search engines and spiders go to google anyway. So, this is what I have started doing. What is our opinion? Is this a good or bad thing?

google is powered is dmoz..so if your site is listed in dmoz thats sufficent

coolguy27 · 08-31-2007, 08:58 AM

But if you want to list your site in DMOZ it may take a lifetime... There are problems with regards to DMOZ and their editors....

You can also have substitutes other than DMOZ. there are lots of quality directories out there....

By the way aside from directories submissions there are lot more to do.... promote it (social bookmarkings, join forums etc...)

dee_el07 · 08-31-2007, 09:13 AM

You can also submit to other directories..you can see it here

x3mario · 08-31-2007, 12:06 PM

Submitting your site to directories is not good enough to gain more backlinks. Try joining forums with your signature and do some social bookmarkings.

work2bfree · 08-31-2007, 06:49 PM

Thanks all for your responses. I am currently doing all of your suggestions except for social bookmarking. I just learned about social bookmarking recently. I will get started on doing this over the weekend. Also, I am a little confused in regards to DMOZ vs Google. Are you saying that because I submitted to Google, which is powered by DMOZ, my url may take quite a while to get listed. By the way Dee_el07, I saved your link for future use.

Thanks again....

**Cricket** · 08-31-2007, 06:54 PM

I think you may be confusing Google as a search engine and the Google Directory. They are two very different things. Our responses were concerning the Google Directory.

ScareYou · 08-31-2007, 07:32 PM

Directories = Sites that provide a listing of other websites usually organized into categories.

Directories can be free or paid. DMOZ is the most valuable FREE directory PR8 - but they do have strict criteria for getting listed. If your site is the slightest bit spammy/pushy forget it. If your site is an affiliate landing page forget it - some editors won't allow ANY affiliate links. If your site is not useful or interesting and commercial, forget it. Too much adsense will also bias the editors checking out your site. TIP: Clean your site before you do directory submissions, make it as useful/interesting/and non-spammy as possible.

It's easy to confuse Google and the search engines with directories because often the first step Search Engine Optimizers take is directory submissions. Directory submissions should be done by a professional in a "manual" fashion. Find your pro by asking for recommendations on webmaster boards. If you hire an SEO consultant, they will likely outsource the directory submission task (it's tedious).

Once you are in 100+ directories, you will quickly be found by the search engines. Make sure you give clear, concise details on your site to the directories.

Personally, I refuse to use paid directories, but I have heard BOTW is worth it. Some also like Yahoo, and some offer bribes to DMOZ editors (never do that). Until you fully understand the value of a link, don't pay for directories.

work2bfree · 08-31-2007, 07:41 PM

this is some good, sound advise, ScareYou. I will definitely keep all of your suggestions in mind. Right now, since I am just now starting out, money is tight, so I cannot afford to hire and SEO consultant. Are there any cheaper, preferably free methods for submitting my url to directories?

Thank you in advance...

brandrocker · 08-31-2007, 07:44 PM

With DMOZ you may end up with frustration. Yahoo has some great reputation. Actually you need to try and use each possible methods to promote your web site. Submission to directories may not be that much helpful in terms of generating visitors.

ScareYou · 08-31-2007, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by work2bfree

this is some good, sound advise, ScareYou. I will definitely keep all of your suggestions in mind. Right now, since I am just now starting out, money is tight, so I cannot afford to hire and SEO consultant. Are there any cheaper, preferably free methods for submitting my url to directories?

Thank you in advance...

Yes, you can do this for free yourself. It's tedious though. Start with the best and work your way down.

Try this Google search "high pr directories free" - the first few sites you see will list directories and their page rank.

Make a database or spread sheet. Enter the directories in one column, and the page rank in the other. Visit a few sites with lists of directories (ignore any paid directories) and enter them into the database until you have around 100.

Sort the data by the page rank - starting with the highest. When you have submitted to one, mark it done. This way, you can pull up the database whenever you have free time and submit to a few directories. By starting with the best, you will get the most value for your time.

* Don't forget - 1. Be concise and clear with your descriptions. Try to be useful not spammy (no sales pitches). 2. Clean your site in advance of submitting. You don't want to submit overly commercial/spammy stuff to the best directories.

ScareYou · 08-31-2007, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brandrocker

Yahoo has some great reputation.

Yahoo is paid - unless you are a non-profit or meet some special criteria. It's pricey too, I think $299/yr.

This to me is complete hypocrisy (I'd prefer to use another word but haven't checked the forum rules on language yet). Yahoo and the other search engines all frown on buying links and paying to optimize sites for search engines. Yet Yahoo charges to do just that. They might as well just sell you a position in the search results. Just one more reason Yahoo got stomped by Google.

ScareYou · 08-31-2007, 08:18 PM

There is a paid V7n directory with a PR6. This is a one time fee of $49, which is a WAY better deal than Yahoo IMO.

work2bfree · 08-31-2007, 08:41 PM

Right now ScareYou, money is very tight. I agree that $49.00 is a reasonable amount but I just spent a lot of money on some other things, so I am going to have to hold off here. I do very much appreciate you help. I will keep this in mind. Maybe next month, I will pay the $49.00.

zagu060807 · 09-01-2007, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by work2bfree

One of the methods I recently learned to increase visitations to my website was to submit my url to directories. I was looking for something out there that would allow me to do this to multiple directories. Instead, I was told to just submit to Google directory becasue all of the other search engines and spiders go to google anyway. So, this is what I have started doing. What is our opinion? Is this a good or bad thing?

It is the best option because Google is the most complicated among the three large search engines. Yahoo and MSN/Live is just a piece of cake to you if you have made your site on top of Google's SERP.

ScareYou · 09-01-2007, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by zagu060807

It is the best option because Google is the most complicated among the three large search engines. Yahoo and MSN/Live is just a piece of cake to you if you have made your site on top of Google's SERP.

It's true that Google has the most sophisticated algorithm. However, I prefer to SEO for Google since they update faster. I've hit top 5 within 6-8 weeks of launching a site for competitive keywords with Google. It takes Yahoo and MSN longer to rank new sites.

work2bfree · 09-01-2007, 05:01 PM

It all seems too complicated for me right now. I think I am going to wait on this later down the road. Also, at this time, I don't have the funds to get a SEO to help me. So, I'll just wait until my business can afford me more options of advertising.

thanks for sharing...