Backlinks question

[Sadierhianne]

If i posted 1000 posts on various forums with my signature attached and say the chances of that particular thread being searched by google 50% giving me 500 backlinks, then would these back links remain mine forever? Or would they start to reduce over time and if i never forum posted again, would i end up with no back links?

Reason i ask - i did this checker thing for link from google, yahoo etc.

It says that i have no google links - i did have 7 when i first launched my site but now not one google link. Today i did another web tool thing and it told me i had just under 300 back links - now, if i look at the millions of posts that i have left on various forums over the past 18 months, under 300 is looking a little bit on the low side.

How do i get google links?

Thank you.

anne

[bogs]

google don't give all the result of backlinks....

[Trapped]

Sorry for asking but why do you care? If your purpose is to post only for backlinks than the value of those links will really be low. Instead if you post to contribute the value of that backlink will double.

In any case, i would rather post 2 times every day instead of 500 posts today and no signs from me until the next year.

The value of that backlink will remain, until that thread gets moved into archives or changes URL for some case and that particular URL loses rankings in the SERPs.

[MrCat]

Do other link building stuffs. Article marketing, social bookmarking, etc. Don't just rely on forum posting for link backs

[Sadierhianne]

I don't just post places for back links - i only just learned today that my posting on a forum and leaving a signature was classed as a back link.

I post on many forums and have been fully active on a daily basis on that forum - the only reason i would ever post loads on a forum and then leave it was if someone was outwardly rude to me or made assumptions about me.

I was caring because i am a frequent chatter and have been on forums for years and years and a long time before i started my business - i am also quite tuned on certain envoronmental matters and have my own forum but i had only ever considered a link in my sig as being a way to tell people that i exist - now i have learned that these signatures amount to a back link i am wondering why when i must have left many many thousands of signatures, i only actually have just under 300 back links. Was trying to work out why so few when i am a compulsive chatter. And not someone who drops in, says two words for the sake of leaving a signature - i wouldn't spend hours chatting and involving myself just for the sake of leaving a signature.

I came on here today to get some answers from people who i thought would know some answers, same as people come on my forum to learn how to make soap.

Interestingly - if i only posted on a forum for the purpose of back links, why would the link value be really low?

Mr Cat - thank you, i have done several articles for eco street, hippy shopper, guide me green and none of them show up as a google link. I have also done articles for other places but can't remember where now - i used to chat on myspace but it drove me nuts and then facebook but i kept getting pervy men sending me messages so i have moved away from that too. I also have several paid ads on the net with my link but still i have a google rank of 0 compered to 7 when i first launched my site - i have no idea how to get that goole rank up - not sure why i am bothered about it but it seems to be important to have.

Thanks

Anne

[scorpionagency]

I would eliminate the thought from my mind if I was you that Forums are a long lasting inbound link campaign. At best, if you're lucky you might get a thread you posted in to become a STICKY thread & permanently heading a forum (Probably the closest to a solid inbound link besides being referenced in the footer or partners spot).

A forum is always moving (The good ones that is), Rotating content & archiving stagnated topics.

I think if you focus more on the Viable Educational information provided in direct relation to the topic in question (Keeping the above in mind), you will generate the temporary "NOW" traffic, along with build a solid public relations connection. On top of that, if your site content is as viable & quality driven as your helpful answer was, you may have just accomplished the most Powerful inbound linking strategy - Organic Linking - (Meaning the reader placed a link on their site to you as a reference under their own free will)

Do I think Forum Campaigns in general are pointless? NO, I think that if you can provide Quality with each post you are contributing to the overall equation of success! However if you only post 1 -3 liners, or: Nice post, great job, I agree, looking good, hello, etc... you're simply waisting your time when you could be doing something more constructive to help your business.

Hope this helped!

[Sadierhianne]

Hi, thank you, yes it helped and because when i do answer a post i do answer it in the positive way that you have just described and always in detail - my business is based on my beliefs, i started my business due to my beliefs - i want people to consider the environment and i know some simple ways for them to do that, as a result i started to sell ( and at this stage non profit because i'd rather people look after the environment than me make a profit - can't stay this way though forever ) the products that they need. What i have done since then is build an info site with the recipes and some uselful info on composting, organic gardening etc so that when i don't have time to answer on forums, i can simply send them to the info website and forum.

I now understand a load more than i did yesterday and it has all been very useful information to me. I do get sales from forums because my site is quite a unique site for those who are into what i sell and now i know that the signatures are classesd as backlinks, that is an added bonus.

I do seriously need backlinks now because of the google issue - off to check to see if he has been into my site today.

Thank you.

Anne

[scorpionagency]

I'm sure you posted here for the SEO / Marketing informational aspects, However I must stress the fact that a Targeted Forum Campaign in relation to your products / services breeds more targeted traffic.

If your providing Gardening supplies / tips / tricks / articles / tutorials / etc.. A gardening forum is your Primary target for a forum campaign to breed the best overall results.

I'm sure you already are, I just had to add that in for any other readers of this thread that its quite pointless to run a Forums campaign in the attempt to generate quality traffic (Traffic that converts & buys something) to your website if your website has nothing to do with thread topic your posting in.

[Sadierhianne]

I posted here because i am having issues with my website and needed to understand more - if i want to chat about my beliefs which i based my business on then i post on forums - as i have done for many years pre my business starting - that as you say, are rrelevant to what i do. If my intention was to simply want backlinks on any forum, i wouldn't choose this one

If i'd have been interested in targetting a forum specially for advertising reasons i'd have used my business name as my screen name, i'd have dropped my business name in several posts by now - not cared less if they were removed and sneakily left a link somewhere already but i didn't and i even removed my business name in a post yesterday where i asked for help with something - not had any replies to that so thinking it might have been removed despite me being careful not to blatantly fed anyone up. I have gone ahead and made the changes to my home page now anyway. Oh and i'd have posted the full 50 posts in one day, added millions of one liners

I have been searching endlessley for answers to a problem i have had for a month - namely Google no longer visiting my site - have been given loads of different advice elsewhere( not on forums), so instead of spending 18 hours a day reading up on stuff i thought that i'd come and ask - just found lots of other interesting stuff to look at, post about too. Still have lots of silly qustions left but my brain is saturated today so having a day off

I have though in the past looked for forums to go post on but not for back links but for sales - problem with me is that i can get quite attached to a community and end up being a full time member - too much chatting is not good for ones business

Thank you for your advice - so i can't interest you in chat about vinegar then

anne

[Sadierhianne]

I forgot to say - i don't have time to forum drop or spend lots of time chatting on forums though and have stayed a way from forums for a long while - but as i am having the google issues i need some drastic measures in place and if i need to go and hit all of my old forums just to get things moving again then needs must - it makes me feel guilty though if i am honest.

anne

[scorpionagency]

ScorpionAgency: I just had to add that in for any other readers of this thread

I wasn't focused on you in the last post, I merely used Gardening as a hypothetical example.

I will search for your Google post in the forums & see if there is anything I can help with.

[Sadierhianne]

Aww thank you!!!! It was my first post in the google forum and it really is getting me down now - any help is much appreciated and now i have posted 50 posts i think that i can add my signature - Kaykays did give me a good reply but until i can phone the man who made my website i can't get that issue respolved - i don't venture into C panel other than to back up.

It is quite honestly a stress that i am struggling with and this is why i am here - and now that i am, i have lots to be asking.

Thank you

Anne

[zagu060807]

Originally Posted by Sadierhianne

If i posted 1000 posts on various forums with my signature attached and say the chances of that particular thread being searched by google 50% giving me 500 backlinks, then would these back links remain mine forever? Or would they start to reduce over time and if i never forum posted again, would i end up with no back links?

Reason i ask - i did this checker thing for link from google, yahoo etc.

It says that i have no google links - i did have 7 when i first launched my site but now not one google link. Today i did another web tool thing and it told me i had just under 300 back links - now, if i look at the millions of posts that i have left on various forums over the past 18 months, under 300 is looking a little bit on the low side.

How do i get google links?

Thank you.

anne

Wait for the major backlink update and your link will be seen in Google.

[Sadierhianne]

Ooooo i might be getting confused now or confusing you - ok i did this check thing, might have been a iwebtool thingy and it shows a table, on the table it shows you how many links with yahoo, msn, alexa and google - i used to have 7 with google and now i have none - i am assuming that it is talking about backlinks no?

This is it - link popularity report. This si the report when my site was very very new:

7 Google
71 Yahoo
108 AllTheWeb
110 AltaVista
69 MSN
0 HotBot +

I don't have the current rreport cause i deleted it but the google bit is 0

I don't know how or what gave me the 7 google links but i checked a few of my friends sites out and they had loads and their sites are far newer than mine.

Sorry for any confusion - when i looked on that website again last week it said that my alexa thingies had gone right down yet i have had more traffic this last three months than i have had in a while.

Now i am confusing myself. Might have to go and watch some telly.

Thank you all for your posts.

anne

[scorpionagency]

No, it's not confusing at all really.....

Googles mathematical algorithms are very unique & are more strict than most other engines out there, hinse why they have become the #1 search engine in there industry.

Organic relevant links Vs. Spammy Irrelevant links - The algorithm tries to calculate the relevance of the source of the link Vs. the destination. If the sources content is similar / relevant / reputable / & on a page with a Very low amount of other external links, it will be labeled Organic (In theory). Spammy links won't get listed in a backlink report, Don't worry though, they are still there, you can type your Exact URL in the search engine & if it shows up, you ARE indexed. Then click on the cached or extended report for the ones not shown. You will find that allot of the backlinks ARE listed there.

Keep in mind that most of Googles inbound links & PR rankings are up to 3 months behind, they are not accurate metric measurement tools at all.

Whenever I do a backlinks check I normally use www.widexl.com that shows the top 5 engines backlink reports.

Hope this helped....

[MrCat]

Originally Posted by scorpionagency

No, it's not confusing at all really.....

Googles mathematical algorithms are very unique & are more strict than most other engines out there, hinse why they have become the #1 search engine in there industry.

Organic relevant links Vs. Spammy Irrelevant links - The algorithm tries to calculate the relevance of the source of the link Vs. the destination. If the sources content is similar / relevant / reputable / & on a page with a Very low amount of other external links, it will be labeled Organic (In theory). Spammy links won't get listed in a backlink report, Don't worry though, they are still there, you can type your Exact URL in the search engine & if it shows up, you ARE indexed. Then click on the cached or extended report for the ones not shown. You will find that allot of the backlinks ARE listed there.

Keep in mind that most of Googles inbound links & PR rankings are up to 3 months behind, they are not accurate metric measurement tools at all.
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Very true!

[cldnails]

Although the link: modifier in Google search will not always give you an accurate representation, Google/webmaster/tools/siteoverview will give you all the incoming links.

[Manish Pandey]

Yep those are the places to find your backlinks!

Yahoo site explorer being the best one to go for!

[Sadierhianne]

Thank you.

anne